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Republicans' new Web site not exactly what they hoped it would be

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Re: Republicans' new Web site not exactly what they hoped it would be

#71

Honestly, this kind of depresses me. I'd love to see an honest dialogue between government and citizens with well thought out ideas and respect from both sides. However, that's just not happening here. Between the massive influx of immature trolls and the Poe's Law style comments, it seems doomed from the start. The server creaking under the massive weight of traffic certainly isn't helping either. I think a system l…

The site was doomed from the moment 4chan heard about it. When are people going to learn that you can't expect online polls and discussions to escape the trolls? There isn't much that can be done about it either or else people would complain about "censorship".

Re: Republicans' new Web site not exactly what they hoped it would be

#72

I can't tell if this is real or a satirical article. "Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who created the program, said that to get software for the site, 'I personally traveled to Washington state and discovered a Microsoft program that helped NASA map the moon.'"

FWIW, he's probably referring to .NET, which appears to be powering the Republican web site as well as NASA World Wind, which can be used to view lunar data sets.

http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/download.html

Re: Republicans' new Web site not exactly what they hoped it would be

#74
post #48

When I visit the site, I get this: Unavailable A very high volume of Americans are speaking out right now. Please wait a moment and try again.

Well, their publicity is working. Try refreshing it once or twice and it should come up. Probably got an influx of people from this site and others visiting it which overwhelmed it.

Re: Republicans' new Web site not exactly what they hoped it would be

#75
Great political ideas come, not from committees or from random samplings of the uninformed or semi-informed masses, but from intelligent and forceful leaders who can think them through thoughtfully, who can articulate them in a way that resonates with people, and who can set out an agenda to carry them into effective action. None of this is easy to do and it takes exceptional people even to make a credible stab at it.

There is no need to bring in modern politics to illustrate this. Any glance through the Federalist Papers will quickly show to any informed reader that one can take very difficult and highly contentious topics (how to form a country, how to divide its power among different groups, how to limit its power decisively in furtherance of broader principles such as natural law) and make well-reasoned and even brilliant arguments about them in ways that compel people to action. The people who made those arguments were steeped in a lifetime of ideas and imbued with a strong philosophy about the principles of right government, and it showed in what they wrote - even when those writings essentially took the form of propaganda pieces (which is really what the Federalist Papers were).

You won't get this from a website such as the one featured in this piece. You won't get it from Democratic Underground either. Leaders are leaders and hacks are hacks. The world offers the latter in abundance but good leaders are a precious few. This is not to say that normal, day-to-day people can't have good ideas or be intelligent in a political sense. It is to say that the intelligent articulation of such views won't come out in a mass setting and that is why political parties are ultimately driven by insiders (who are, one would hope, effective leaders) and not by soliciting random views from the street.

Re: Republicans' new Web site not exactly what they hoped it would be

#76

They had to go to Microsoft to get this? Reddit is open source. But I'm guessing they see open source as anti-american.

Well, considering most of the government uses a Microsoft stack I'm not surprised. Besides, their categorization is pretty well-done. Reddit and sites such as this one are harder to use for people who don't write software or regularly browse the internet. (And, considering Stackoverflow is based on a Microsoft stack very similar to this site, it's slightly silly. Pick the right tools for the task and a dev stack you enjoy).

Re: Republicans' new Web site not exactly what they hoped it would be

#77
post #48

When I visit the site, I get this: Unavailable A very high volume of Americans are speaking out right now. Please wait a moment and try again.

Of all the comments on the site and in this thread, this is the one that made me laugh.
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