These techniques permit the CIA to bypass the encryption of WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Wiebo, Confide and Cloackman by hacking the "smart" phones that they run on and collecting audio and message traffic before encryption is applied.
CIA malware and hacking tools
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#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
Think about it. Having the code copyrighted, would leave a paper trail.
Not really; copyright is mostly implicit. If US law made all code developed for the purposes of the CIA automatically copyrighted, the code would be copyrighted. Right now the law says it isn't, so it isn't. Having code be copyrighted does not require any explicit registration.
And "pirating" copyrighted code doesn't either, so they'd have no way of knowing anyway. Basically, anyone who would use this would likely wouldn't care if its classified or not and copyrighted or not.
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#284Quit with the fucking conspiracy theories. Seriously -- can we get a fucking mod in here to get rid of this shit.
I support your plea for avoiding hysteria but this stuff passed dismissal as mere conspiracy long ago. All plausible angles must be considered with this stuff. The CIA and FSB are in the business of deniability so it takes more than just a surface level reality check to discredit.
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#285This may sound stupid, but I'm wondering if using Windows Phone 8 (not Windows 10 mobile) might be a strong measure for protecting oneself against such attacks. First, it's quite restricted in terms of deep system access towards devs and users. Apps are sandboxed and extremely isolated from each other. Then, its market share is so low that probably no one makes an effort to build targeted attacks towards it.
I was just wondering the same, looking down at my trusty old lumia here. Unfortunately no desktop OS seems to be safe
> Unfortunately no desktop OS seems to be safe
What about Qubes OS?
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#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If these actions are being done domestically against US citizens, with no just cause sure I will get upset, but that has yet to be seen. May I just ask, why does this distinction matter? Why do you believe the world should be divided into "people who were issued bits of paper by my overlords" and "people who weren't"? I never understood this division in other people's heads. It leads to all sorts of philosophical p…
I believe that in my heart as well. However, we don't currently live in a world with a federated global government. The recent election in the US highlighted that people do divide the world into imaginary lines on maps and it had a slogan: AMERICA FIRST. It's not just the political class that sees these divisions, it's a majority of the citizens. How would you spark a revolution in people's thinking?
One must make a strong justification for why treating the citizens of the world the same as an American is good for Americans.
If we treat the world like we treat our citizens, then perhaps this leads to greater prosperity, more shared understanding about the rights of man, rule of law, and how to resolve conflicts (see the lately faltering "No two countries with a McDonald's have ever gone to war with each other" rule).
Lately, this has been harder to justify as Americans have felt scared of foreign terrorism (not making a value judgment on that fear, but that the fear exists is real). Because of this the "evangelize to the world" feelings of the Cold War have given way to "protect us from the world - we need to get OURS."
Many (including me) would argue this is short sighted. Best way to combat the narrative is to talk about the impacts of retreat from the world, and of arms races, etc. Communicating nuance, history, etc is hard. :/
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#287Quit with the fucking conspiracy theories. Seriously -- can we get a fucking mod in here to get rid of this shit.
shill detected
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#288In what is surely one of the most astounding intelligence own goals in living memory, the CIA structured its classification regime such that for the most market valuable part of "Vault 7" — the CIA's weaponized malware (implants + zero days), Listening Posts (LP), and Command and Control (C2) systems — the agency has little legal recourse. The CIA made these systems unclassified. Why the CIA chose to make its cyberar…
So then there would be no justifiable reason to reject a FOIA request for the source code.
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#289You know the expense of doing this is over 100 Billion a year (especially if you include lost business for American corps over the mistrust). You have to wonder what the upside is, in dollars. I have to imagine its very, very low, and perhaps only justified in having a lottery ticket to prevent an extinction level event like WW3?
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#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
In that case, you say "I can't answer that question" and let the system do its job. You don't lie.
No. The only way he couldn't answer the question was if the program existed, thus revealing the existence of the program, so he had to lie.
You are mounting the most ridiculous defence of perjury I have ever seen. Do you seriously think that Congress passed laws they intended to be interpreted in the way you propose? That they want to be lied to?
Clapper lied under oath. He should have paid the penalty for that. He didn't because the US Government has decided that it either can't or doesn't want to control the shadow state.