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Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by cyberferret »

brak1 wrote: post #18

> How long are my files kept? > As long as possible What a stupid answer to that question! (it gives more info - "You can set an expiry time by pressing the "Options"-button that's next to your uploaded file, otherwise your files will float in the clouds for as long as possible." - but it still doesn't really give any answer)

Well, in all honestly they can't really say "forever" or "indefinitely" because that is really an impossibility. How long is "forever" in your estimation? 10 years? 100 years? a thousand?

In all likelihood, the internet itself might evolve into something different in that time. This service might get bought out, or shut down, or the original founders may (fate forbid) get hit by a bus next week.

Setting any sort of indefinite limit is opening themselves up for legal action if it is even one minute less than someone expects. "As long as possible" at least is honest enough to say that as long as there is enough interest to keep the lights on, they will be there.

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by ferbivore »

NoFile wrote: post #17
arekkas wrote: post #5

What's different to so-called 1-click hosters (rapidshare, mega, uploaded, ...)? What's your business model? How do you want to keep DMCA claims at bay? Does this work mobile?

What's different to so-called 1-click hosters (rapidshare, mega, uploaded, ...)? The main difference is that nearly all of these hosts specialize in a specific type of storage. As an example MEGA forces all users to client-side encrypt files before uploading which is useful for sensitive files, but it comes with the cost of incompatibilities with older browsers and devices which can't decrypt/download the files. Uplo…

At the moment there is no revenue source.

So what makes you think your fate will be any different than that of all the other free file hosts that have had to resort to advertising in order to survive?

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by NoFile »

JamesBaxter wrote: post #8

"There's nothing more annoying than selecting a file and having it removed due to a disallowed file type, therefore all files are allowed*." CTRL+F finds no other asterisk on the page, what's the caveat?

Currently all different file types are accepted so the asterik has been removed - thanks for pointing it out.

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by pjc50 »

arekkas wrote: post #5

What's different to so-called 1-click hosters (rapidshare, mega, uploaded, ...)? What's your business model? How do you want to keep DMCA claims at bay? Does this work mobile?

These are the essential questions. The technical side of filesharing is easy. The legal and economical side is not.

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by [deleted] »

zhan_eg wrote: post #7

"Encryption - Protect Your Files Protect sensitive files with encryption. Only users with the URL will be able to view it. " This is not encryption - you should change the copy to tell what encryption is used (AES-128 from the info here), even if it's beta. Some more information on that will be welcome.

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Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by NoFile »

zhan_eg wrote: post #7

"Encryption - Protect Your Files Protect sensitive files with encryption. Only users with the URL will be able to view it. " This is not encryption - you should change the copy to tell what encryption is used (AES-128 from the info here), even if it's beta. Some more information on that will be welcome.

There is actually a page that explains the encryption used and how it works which can be found here: https://nofile.io/security/

A link has also been added to that block to make it easier to find, thanks for pointing it out.

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by metachris »

zhan_eg wrote: post #7

"Encryption - Protect Your Files Protect sensitive files with encryption. Only users with the URL will be able to view it. " This is not encryption - you should change the copy to tell what encryption is used (AES-128 from the info here), even if it's beta. Some more information on that will be welcome.

https://nofile.io/security/

"Your file is first securely encrypted using a secret key (AES-128) with Javascript on your device. Once it has been encrypted, the encrypted data is uploaded to a NoFile storage server over a secure HTTPS connection preventing any malicious users from seeing what you're uploading (as an extra layer of security).

Only those with the secret key (which is in the URL) will be able to see the correct content and filename - if a single character of the key varies, then the file will be unrecognizable."

You need to set this as your preferred method on the upload page.

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by SparkyMcUnicorn »

Since there's no business model, NoFile could disappear overnight.

Without some sort of guarantee of availability, I wouldn't be able to recommend it to friends, coworkers, or family. I don't want to advertise something that is truly a great service but ends up shutting down few months from now after people start abusing it.

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by NoFile »

cyberferret wrote: post #14

Seems pretty cool. I was actually thinking of building a similar 'accountless' file upload and sharing service, but this one is a lot better than what I was envisaging. Question - would you, in the future allow uploading to configurable destinations, e.g. my own S3 buckets? Also, do you track the number of time a file asset was downloaded from your service so that the original uploader can check activity stats? EDIT:…

Thanks for the positive feedback.

Right now there's only an option to upload files to Dropbox, but the plan is to add as many useful alternatives as possible and S3 would be a good option.

The number of times a file was downloaded is currently being counted, but it isn't public. It would be an interesting idea to display it on every download page by default (similar to Imgur) and give the uploader the option of disabling it.

The duplicated info block has also been replaced, thanks for pointing it out.

Re: Show HN: NoFile.io – A simple file storage site with lots of perks

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Post by NoFile »

libeclipse wrote: post #16
zhan_eg wrote: post #7

"Encryption - Protect Your Files Protect sensitive files with encryption. Only users with the URL will be able to view it. " This is not encryption - you should change the copy to tell what encryption is used (AES-128 from the info here), even if it's beta. Some more information on that will be welcome.

They may be encrypting the file with a parameter passed in the URL. In this case, assuming no logs are kept, it would be a reasonable encryption setup.

The encryption key is passed after the hash (#) in the URL. Therefore the keys are never sent to the server over the HTTP request (more info about this can be found here: https://nofile.io/security/).
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