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Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by chx »

bmon wrote: post #637
chx wrote: post #525

WSL is great but I dread all sorts of malware / ransomware / virii etc. One wrong click (have you ever been tired) and while obviously I have backups that's a lot of stress and lost productivity to get back where I was.

You have to go a fair way to run anything on wsl, much more than "one click". Also, there's not much that you can do in bash that can't already happen in batch/powershell, with perhaps a little more effort.

How's the gcc toolchain? One of the biggest comforts on Linux is the easy ability to just configure-make anything one needs.

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Post by grennis »

ams6110 wrote: post #500
bradgessler wrote: post #164

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I too have become annoyed recently at really basic stuff not working in macOS, like I can't drag and drop a picture out of Photos app into Pixelmator to edit. In fact, dragging and dropping a picture out of Photos into any application is completely broken and doesn't work. Its as-if the Apple QA team no longer tests to make sure their applications play nice with each other in a way that has been fundamental to deskto…

At the same time, Windows 10 on my Dell laptop will heat up, spin the fan noticably and something called "Service Host: Local System" will consistently use 48 - 52% of CPU when the laptop is sitting doing nothing at all, with no applications open. I really can't understand what it's doing but have a hard time taking it seriously as an operating system.

Seriously as I am typing this right now, on Mac OSX, the "kernel_task" is using 50% CPU for no apparent reason and fans have been running for > 20 minutes

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Post by darpa_escapee »

jmcdiesel wrote: post #17

I used to be hardcore windows guy... Then 10 years ago I got a mac. I never went back.. But what am I saving money for right now? To build a nice PC again. Mostly because of the exact reasons in the article. I have a fondness for apple... but they have definitely lost their way. First, they were a computer company driven by a man who loved computers ("first" here is the Jobs return era) ... then they became a Compute…

> the consumers anymore, they stick their fingers in their ears and pretend to know best.

They are though. Consumers will pay for hardware with batteries that die after a year and a half. They'll pay for vendor-lock in and to be locked into the walled garden experience. They'll pay for hardware that will be locked out of the walled garden and unsupported by vendor updates after 4-5 years. They'll pay extra for accessories that give basic functionality to their electronics. They'll pay a massive premium for accessories that are subpar for their asking price if they're endorsed by celebrities.

I'm not a fan of newer Apple hardware and software, but we're in the minority.

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Post by darpa_escapee »

greggman wrote: post #539
ams6110 wrote: post #500

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At the same time, Windows 10 on my Dell laptop will heat up, spin the fan noticably and something called "Service Host: Local System" will consistently use 48 - 52% of CPU when the laptop is sitting doing nothing at all, with no applications open. I really can't understand what it's doing but have a hard time taking it seriously as an operating system.

Macs do the exact same thing http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/233061/maspushagent... http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/111197/runaway-dist... http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/150945/nsurlstorage... There are plenty of other examples

It happens on OS X. Kernel freezes as well.

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Post by Angostura »

tqkxzugoaupvwqr wrote: post #364
Angostura wrote: post #361

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Yes you can - I've just done it.

Instead of being condescending you could have explained how to do it.

Sorry, it really was a question of selecting a picture and the selecting copy from the menu. I wasn't trying to be an arse.

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Post by andrewjw »

Eridrus wrote: post #118
bluedino wrote: post #41

I'm not 100% happy with where Apple is at, but I don't think I ever was. But I'm not going to switch. I get the slickest hardware, great battery life, the best touchpad and keyboard, and a hi-resolution screen that doesn't have battery life, flicker, tint, or scaling issues. Windows is still...Windows. The bash subsystem is half-baked. Windows itself is still the same mess. Docking is still a joke. Performance is ter…

The bash system is incomplete when compared to native Linux, but it's still really good for anything that is purely userspace. I haven't had a userspace issue in many months, and it's only getting more complete over time.

Also - command line usage on Mac OS is far from perfect. While bash itself works fine (as it does on Windows), many command-line tools are differently organized or missing features. (Try adding a user on the command line on Mac OS.)

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Post by chaostheory »

lolsal wrote: post #757
chaostheory wrote: post #643

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Actually I care more about OS performance rather than new features. Of course the only reason I don't want new features is because Apple refuses to release a screenless iMac where you can upgrade the RAM and hard drives easily.

Isn't that what a Mac Pro is? Screenless and upgradable hardware.

It's screenless, but I wouldn't call it upgradable when you compare it to the old metal Mac Pro

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Post by alfredxing »

I run a "hackintosh" system with similar specs as in the blog post, and it works very well (after quite a bit of initial setup).

I still far prefer macOS to Windows for development because it's an actual Unix, the UI is still much better, and the quality of apps available is quite a large difference.

My dream though, is a Linux with an actually decent GUI, desktop environment, and good apps. But one can only dream...

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Post by kartickv »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #769
kartickv wrote: post #766

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The question isn't whether they deserve the complaints, or about the minutae of charging, but whether people think that going from X -> Y is bad and going from Y -> X is also bad. If so, they're just being change-averse: ignore them.

In general it's a good thing to think about. But you were using it to make an argument that the complaints were invalid. So I'm going to reply to that specific argument, by pointing out that when Apple changes the IO ports to USB-C and enables USB charging, it does not require them to remove the magsafe port. In other words, apple went X -> Y. But adding Y reused IO ports and could have coexisted with X. Even though…

There's no need for MagSafe if you have USB charging. It's redundant.

It also entrenches the old standard rather than making way for the new one. If you have a laptop with both USB-C and MagSafe, and you need a second charger, you might buy a MagSafe charger if it's cheaper or to use with an older Macbook. Whereas without MagSafe, you'll buy a USB-C charger — the new technology.

If you want to do a transition, you have to go all in. Having both the old and the new port merely delays the transition, causing more pain in the long-term. Get it over with.

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Post by nathan_long »

ozmbie wrote: post #370
jmcdiesel wrote: post #17

I used to be hardcore windows guy... Then 10 years ago I got a mac. I never went back.. But what am I saving money for right now? To build a nice PC again. Mostly because of the exact reasons in the article. I have a fondness for apple... but they have definitely lost their way. First, they were a computer company driven by a man who loved computers ("first" here is the Jobs return era) ... then they became a Compute…

Apple is a still computer company, because Phones ARE computers. For the majority of the population in developed countries, and almost all of the population of developing countries, smartphones are the only computer people have or need. I agree that Apple have shifted focus away from "making tools for people to create things and solve problems" towards consumption-oriented mobile devices. But those devices are still…

> If Apple devoted their focus to products in proportion to their revenue, then they would be putting 12x as much effort into the iPhone than they would for the entire Mac lineup.

Consider:

- iPhones will suck if developers stop making software for them.

- You need XCode to make software for iPhones

- XCode only runs on MacOS

If developers start abandoning Mac en masse, that's going to hurt iOS a lot.

Also, if photographers, videographers, animators, designers, audio engineers, etc start championing Windows or Linux as their platform of choice, the average person will follow eventually. "All the pros I know use X" persuades a lot of average people.

And if people aren't using Mac, there's a lot less reason to use iPhone as opposed to Android.

I hate to use the word "synergy", but that seems to be what they're risking here.

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