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Re: How to become successful Rubyist

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So many folks suggest "If you don't have anything you can show, start by contributing to OSS work!" that I sort of have the urge to be contrarian:

1) The professional degree for software engineers is a BS. You might not be great shakes when you get out of school, but you're still a professional. You know what professional means? That when you're the least experienced person in the room doing barely serviceable work, you're still getting paid.

2) Extended unpaid apprenticeships are a feature of the guild system and their modern analogues, used specifically because they make it harder to get into the field rather than easier, despite the outward appearance of offering a ladder into the field. Is that who we really want to be?

3) Every programmer you admire sucked once and almost all of them got paid back when they sucked. They often got paid in a variety of eccentric fashions, but they got paid.

You know that ubermench coding for a local company when he was 14 who, hah, had to have his mom cash his paychecks because he didn't have a checking account? His code sucked, too. It just did something that solved a problem for the business. You know what businesses do for people who solve them problems? That's right, pay them money.

I have nothing against OSS. By all means, write OSS. Get paid to do it, though. Can you FizzBuzz? Good, you're hireable by somebody. Get hired. Write code. Learn to write code better. Career path goes up and to the right from here.

Re: How to become successful Rubyist

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So many folks suggest "If you don't have anything you can show, start by contributing to OSS work!" that I sort of have the urge to be contrarian: 1) The professional degree for software engineers is a BS. You might not be great shakes when you get out of school, but you're still a professional. You know what professional means? That when you're the least experienced person in the room doing barely serviceable work,…

So many folks suggest "If you don't have anything you can show, start by contributing to OSS work!" that I sort of have the urge to be contrarian

Many interesting companies prefer to hire (and in some cases hire only) people who have or have contributed to opensource projects.

By all means, write OSS. Get paid to do it, though.

Is it really that bad to work on opensource software solely because you want to? Do we really need to get paid for everything we do?

Re: How to become successful Rubyist

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So many folks suggest "If you don't have anything you can show, start by contributing to OSS work!" that I sort of have the urge to be contrarian: 1) The professional degree for software engineers is a BS. You might not be great shakes when you get out of school, but you're still a professional. You know what professional means? That when you're the least experienced person in the room doing barely serviceable work,…

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Re: How to become successful Rubyist

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So many folks suggest "If you don't have anything you can show, start by contributing to OSS work!" that I sort of have the urge to be contrarian: 1) The professional degree for software engineers is a BS. You might not be great shakes when you get out of school, but you're still a professional. You know what professional means? That when you're the least experienced person in the room doing barely serviceable work,…

So many folks suggest "If you don't have anything you can show, start by contributing to OSS work!" that I sort of have the urge to be contrarian Many interesting companies prefer to hire (and in some cases hire only) people who have or have contributed to opensource projects. By all means, write OSS. Get paid to do it, though. Is it really that bad to work on opensource software solely because you want to? Do we rea…

Is it really that bad to work on opensource software solely because you want to?

Of course not. But there's a difference between "I work on OSS because I want to" and "I work on OSS because someone said I should". I believe patio11 is speaking about the latter, mostly.

Re: How to become successful Rubyist

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So many folks suggest "If you don't have anything you can show, start by contributing to OSS work!" that I sort of have the urge to be contrarian: 1) The professional degree for software engineers is a BS. You might not be great shakes when you get out of school, but you're still a professional. You know what professional means? That when you're the least experienced person in the room doing barely serviceable work,…

While that may be true in other areas, it may be difficult to get a job at one of the more well known ruby or rails shops without a GitHub account and community contributions.

Re: How to become successful Rubyist

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I have not read all the articles fully so I cannot comment on the content, but I found that the way the articles were written was interesting. I mean this guy just emailed all these questions to all these people and they just replied?

Re: How to become successful Rubyist

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So many folks suggest "If you don't have anything you can show, start by contributing to OSS work!" that I sort of have the urge to be contrarian: 1) The professional degree for software engineers is a BS. You might not be great shakes when you get out of school, but you're still a professional. You know what professional means? That when you're the least experienced person in the room doing barely serviceable work,…

Yes. Also, if I am going to put some time into OSS and I'm a beginner, I want more specific advice than "work on OSS". What's the procedure for jumping in? How many initial questions are non-annoying for the project maintainers? How do I submit a pull request? What are the projects that are near or just slightly above my skill level? Is my own project, started from scratch at my less than impressive skill level, as good as contributing to an existing project if I'm not ready?

Oh and just to tack on my Ruby specific gripe -- so what if I haven't written tests for my own stuff? Can't you teach me Rspec or whatever your shop uses instead of just tossing out my resume?

Re: How to become successful Rubyist

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It seems like he is asking the wrong people these questions since there is a lot of "I can't really answer that because I don't need to do that". I would rather know the answers to these questions from random folks on the Ruby mailing list that I haven't heard of since their experiences would probably be more fitting for me.
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