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Re: Ask HN: Who really gives your personal info to Intelius, Instant Checkmate, etc?

#181

Small tip: At the grocery store or anywhere else with a rewards account linked to a phone number, rather than signing up for one just use (Your Local Area Code)-867-5309 The number almost always exists and is a valid account. Get the discount, don't get tracked. Thanks, Tommy Tutone.

301-688-6524

Since they're listening anyway. Cut out the middleman.

Re: Ask HN: Who really gives your personal info to Intelius, Instant Checkmate, etc?

#182
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You mean data brokers ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_broker ) Top US brokers: - Acxiom - Experian - Epsilon - CoreLogic - Datalogix - eBureau - ID Analytics - inome - PeekYou - Rapleaf - Recorded Future Protip: loyalty/reward cards are a gold mine, especially drug store purchase receipt data

Opt out links I found - Acxiom - https://isapps.acxiom.com/optout/optout.aspx Experian - http://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-experian/credit-education/... DataLogix Holdings, Inc. https://www.datalogix.com/privacy/#opt-out-landing Epsilon Data Management, LLC http://www.epsilon.com/consumer-preference-center Equifax, Inc - https://help.equifax.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2/noInterce... Fair Isaac Corporation http://www…

+1 Thanks for sharing! If anyone's actually found these to work please share so we can get more confidence in them :)

Re: Ask HN: Who really gives your personal info to Intelius, Instant Checkmate, etc?

#183

I've had the misfortune to be present for an in-person demo of a verification service nearly a decade ago. It involved those relationship questions ("Which one of the following people have you not lived with in the last 5 years?") that are incredibly creepy. I was shocked that they had so much data on me -- I have no debt, no credit cards, no house, no car, no bills, and I had always entered informal rent agreements…

Good to know. Let's all start ordering pizza's, etc under random other names. Create a haystack to hide the needle.

Re: Ask HN: Who really gives your personal info to Intelius, Instant Checkmate, etc?

#184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"I don't think too many people will pay a monthly fee to have their information removed from these services." I would be interested in hearing what are you basing this on? Did you do some market research? My feeling is that there is money in privacy, people seem to have no problem paying 5 or 10 dollars a month for a VPN provider for instance.

I can't remember the exact reasons since it was something I was researching a couple years ago. I saw a few competing services that offered annual plans in the $50-$100 range and I think I divided that by 12 and then imagined what would happen when people got most of the value out of the service on first use. It seems to be a very niche market and I'm not sure how much of a pain point it really is to that niche. I ha…

Interesting points. I wonder if giving the customer visibility into events like "you data was successfully removed from X" would make a difference? Similar to peeking at your Spam folder now and again to see that it is working for you.

Also about the market size I imagine the market is just US? It seems other places, at leas Europe anyway has better laws to protect against these kinds of invasive services.

Re: Ask HN: Who really gives your personal info to Intelius, Instant Checkmate, etc?

#185
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a person who used to be involved in that industry, do you try to protect your data more? Or is it just a losing battle?

Yes, I protect the shit out of my personal info. I have introduced a seeding mechanism to figure out who is sharing my data whenever I sign up for things. Public records are different and you have to create a Trust or a company to hide behind to not be personally listed. I would suggest anyone wanting to not be exposed to never use your real name or address online if you're not confident they won't share it. Introduc…

Would you be willing to write up a guide of some sort about the steps that someone could take to protect their information? Personally, I would be willing to pay for something like that.

Re: Ask HN: Who really gives your personal info to Intelius, Instant Checkmate, etc?

#186

I've had the misfortune to be present for an in-person demo of a verification service nearly a decade ago. It involved those relationship questions ("Which one of the following people have you not lived with in the last 5 years?") that are incredibly creepy. I was shocked that they had so much data on me -- I have no debt, no credit cards, no house, no car, no bills, and I had always entered informal rent agreements…

Do we forget that not long ago everyone's name, address, and phone number was published in the phone book (unless you paid extra for an unlisted number), and hospital admissions were published in the daily newspaper. It used to be unremarkable, and now people shriek "privacy!!" when it's discovered that some mundane detail about their life is not a closely held secret.

Re: Ask HN: Who really gives your personal info to Intelius, Instant Checkmate, etc?

#188

If anyone reading this thread is interested: I would pay non-trivial amounts of money on a regular basis for a service that systematically worked to eliminate records like these (and the sources they draw from), as well as chasing down sources of junk mail and the lists they ultimately draw from. The value would depend on effectiveness, and on the degree to which the service clearly reported exactly what they did. Ca…

I have a foolproof plan for junk mail: I throw it away.

Re: Ask HN: Who really gives your personal info to Intelius, Instant Checkmate, etc?

#189

I've had the misfortune to be present for an in-person demo of a verification service nearly a decade ago. It involved those relationship questions ("Which one of the following people have you not lived with in the last 5 years?") that are incredibly creepy. I was shocked that they had so much data on me -- I have no debt, no credit cards, no house, no car, no bills, and I had always entered informal rent agreements…

Their privacy policy says they don't do this:

https://www.dominos.com/en/#/content/privacy/

Re: Ask HN: Who really gives your personal info to Intelius, Instant Checkmate, etc?

#190

Small tip: At the grocery store or anywhere else with a rewards account linked to a phone number, rather than signing up for one just use (Your Local Area Code)-867-5309 The number almost always exists and is a valid account. Get the discount, don't get tracked. Thanks, Tommy Tutone.

If I can't conveniently avoid those things, I like to use the names of famous serial killers, with a local address that would be in the ocean (if it existed). I've yet to have a sales clerk question it (or perhaps they just don't care).

The clerks don't care. Why would they?
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