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Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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It's probably just a high energy workplace full of plenty of power moves and the resulting hit and miss that comes from that. As if sexual relations could be acted upon as if we had perfect knowledge! Hell even if we did have perfect knowledge we would know that women find it attractive in itself if a guy will approach and based on the skill of that approach yea/nea or w/e happens, so even if we could read each-other…

Can't decide if this is satire.

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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So, progressives in SV have moved from trying to get you fired if you say something they don't like on twitter, to pressuring you to quit your job if an accusation is made against somebody at your company.

Great. This couldn't possibly end poorly.

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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I think it bears repeating that there has been no hard evidence turned up in any of this. Even the single non-anonymous story doesn't have any corroborating evidence or records, and the charges of "investigation" and "harassment" have been only reported by the original reporter of the story. The fallout has been that somebody has been let go after non-substantiated rumors about his activities at a previous employer,…

> Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof That phrase was originally invoked to describe telekinesis. I'm not sure 'Silicon Valley company has problem with female employees' falls into that category.

You're right, this is an ordinary claim that only requires ordinary evidence, something still lacking.

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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So much is happening so fast in the name of bad publicity directed at Uber. Is anyone else cynically suspecting a coordinated hit? I don't doubt there's a toxic culture with real problems present. But the timing and sustained pressure of all this media attention seems a little... suspicious. I also think back to the anonymously written Medium piece after the first one [1]. There is literally no way to verify this, an…

If you have been following Uber on HN since it's inception you will have noticed the trend of targeted media attacks against them long ago.

Being subjected to routine attack pieces and soul-less astroturfers (who can just as easily sign up to HN and comment too) is generally a sign that a company or person is doing innovative things.

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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The tweets at the end really damage this article's reputation as a reasonable piece of journalism (if that's how you choose to label Business Insider). It is absurd to claim that ones reputation is irreparably damaged by not having left the company yet. People have jobs because they need income and to support their lives and families. Even when a company is clearly screwing up (looking right at Uber here), employees…

I genuinely don't understand why news outlets do this unless it's critical to the story. I've seen good examples of Tweet integration in places like The Intercept, for example, but usually they involve some other facet of the story where the Tweets themselves are consequential to the reporting. It just seems like useless noise when done like this article.

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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post #3

So much is happening so fast in the name of bad publicity directed at Uber. Is anyone else cynically suspecting a coordinated hit? I don't doubt there's a toxic culture with real problems present. But the timing and sustained pressure of all this media attention seems a little... suspicious. I also think back to the anonymously written Medium piece after the first one [1]. There is literally no way to verify this, an…

Maybe it's Uber secretly attacking themselves to make President Trump look bad, or to impress Jody Foster.

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof That phrase was originally invoked to describe telekinesis. I'm not sure 'Silicon Valley company has problem with female employees' falls into that category.

You're right, this is an ordinary claim that only requires ordinary evidence, something still lacking.

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Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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Friends, it is insensible to ask me to quit without giving me a better offer elsewhere.

The entire black population of Montgomery Alabama gave up taking the bus for over a year during the boycott because they cared enough to make that sacrifice. People who care enough sometimes go on hunger strike, lie down in front of tanks, and risk arrest for what they believe in. If you need a "better offer" than what I assume is your current 6-figure salary to change jobs, then Uber's sexist, anti-worker, sociopath…

I don't understand this sentiment. Whoever you're responding to could have other responsibilities, family or otherwise, where his or her decision to leave could adversely affect other people - not just them. I also don't quite think it's appropriate to invoke one of the seminal events of the Civil Rights movements in this country as a way to try to shame someone into quitting a job at a company you don't like, exogenous of all the nefarious claims made against them. Let's hold off on grabbing pitch forks for the time being.

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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Friends, it is insensible to ask me to quit without giving me a better offer elsewhere.

The entire black population of Montgomery Alabama gave up taking the bus for over a year during the boycott because they cared enough to make that sacrifice. People who care enough sometimes go on hunger strike, lie down in front of tanks, and risk arrest for what they believe in. If you need a "better offer" than what I assume is your current 6-figure salary to change jobs, then Uber's sexist, anti-worker, sociopath…

Yeah right, because catching a bus is the same as staring down a tank. Literally the bravest thing I've ever heard.

How about next time you have a problem with the way a company does business, you just don't use that company's services? Or is that not enough for you? You have to march around HN and tell everyone else what they should be doing in order to appease you?

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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Friends, it is insensible to ask me to quit without giving me a better offer elsewhere.

The entire black population of Montgomery Alabama gave up taking the bus for over a year during the boycott because they cared enough to make that sacrifice. People who care enough sometimes go on hunger strike, lie down in front of tanks, and risk arrest for what they believe in. If you need a "better offer" than what I assume is your current 6-figure salary to change jobs, then Uber's sexist, anti-worker, sociopath…

Your viewpoint assumes a lot about the original commenter's life situation. It would be incredibly foolish to leave a stable, well paying full-time job if one were supporting a family living in one of highest cost of living cities in the U.S. Especially if someone in their family has a chronic medical condition. I understand it can be done as you mention in your examples, but it's not so easy -- especially with uncertainty surrounding healthcare in the U.S. in general.
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