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Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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So much is happening so fast in the name of bad publicity directed at Uber. Is anyone else cynically suspecting a coordinated hit? I don't doubt there's a toxic culture with real problems present. But the timing and sustained pressure of all this media attention seems a little... suspicious. I also think back to the anonymously written Medium piece after the first one [1]. There is literally no way to verify this, an…

it smells very much like a coordinated hit but it's hard to have sympathy.

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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The tweets at the end really damage this article's reputation as a reasonable piece of journalism (if that's how you choose to label Business Insider). It is absurd to claim that ones reputation is irreparably damaged by not having left the company yet. People have jobs because they need income and to support their lives and families. Even when a company is clearly screwing up (looking right at Uber here), employees can't just leave with out any consequence to their personal life or their ability to afford to live

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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It's probably just a high energy workplace full of plenty of power moves and the resulting hit and miss that comes from that. As if sexual relations could be acted upon as if we had perfect knowledge!

Hell even if we did have perfect knowledge we would know that women find it attractive in itself if a guy will approach and based on the skill of that approach yea/nea or w/e happens, so even if we could read each-others minds there would still be the act of the effectiveness of your tactics and if you didn't play it right then things could still get awkward.

There's variance to life you know. In before anal-retentive attentiveness to how I used epistemic randomness.

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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post #3

So much is happening so fast in the name of bad publicity directed at Uber. Is anyone else cynically suspecting a coordinated hit? I don't doubt there's a toxic culture with real problems present. But the timing and sustained pressure of all this media attention seems a little... suspicious. I also think back to the anonymously written Medium piece after the first one [1]. There is literally no way to verify this, an…

This is a big problem for a lot of women even in todays IT companies. The high difference between male and female salary and number of employees is not because males are smarter. It has a lot more to do with how the females get treated already in school, and this continues all the way until most have stopped dreaming and told all their friends to stay away.

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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Friends, it is insensible to ask me to quit without giving me a better offer elsewhere.

The entire black population of Montgomery Alabama gave up taking the bus for over a year during the boycott because they cared enough to make that sacrifice. People who care enough sometimes go on hunger strike, lie down in front of tanks, and risk arrest for what they believe in. If you need a "better offer" than what I assume is your current 6-figure salary to change jobs, then Uber's sexist, anti-worker, sociopathic ethos and the message their practices send to the world are apparently not all that important to you. There's nothing insensible about expecting incredibly mild amounts of empathy and moral courage from some of the most economically secure workers in the world.

If you're a janitor or food service worker at Uber, then I apologize for making incorrect assumptions and my thoughts for you would be different.

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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I think it bears repeating that there has been no hard evidence turned up in any of this. Even the single non-anonymous story doesn't have any corroborating evidence or records, and the charges of "investigation" and "harassment" have been only reported by the original reporter of the story. The fallout has been that somebody has been let go after non-substantiated rumors about his activities at a previous employer,…

We need to stop doing this in every thread. These women are taking huge risks by speaking publicly and asking for proof is insulting to say the least.

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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I think it bears repeating that there has been no hard evidence turned up in any of this. Even the single non-anonymous story doesn't have any corroborating evidence or records, and the charges of "investigation" and "harassment" have been only reported by the original reporter of the story. The fallout has been that somebody has been let go after non-substantiated rumors about his activities at a previous employer,…

> Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof

That phrase was originally invoked to describe telekinesis. I'm not sure 'Silicon Valley company has problem with female employees' falls into that category.

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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post #3

So much is happening so fast in the name of bad publicity directed at Uber. Is anyone else cynically suspecting a coordinated hit? I don't doubt there's a toxic culture with real problems present. But the timing and sustained pressure of all this media attention seems a little... suspicious. I also think back to the anonymously written Medium piece after the first one [1]. There is literally no way to verify this, an…

Doesn't really seem that suspicious. News orgs know what sort of stories that people will read, and they have likely realized that Uber is a giant seam of news stories just waiting to be mined.

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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I think it bears repeating that there has been no hard evidence turned up in any of this. Even the single non-anonymous story doesn't have any corroborating evidence or records, and the charges of "investigation" and "harassment" have been only reported by the original reporter of the story. The fallout has been that somebody has been let go after non-substantiated rumors about his activities at a previous employer,…

> Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof That phrase was originally invoked to describe telekinesis. I'm not sure 'Silicon Valley company has problem with female employees' falls into that category.

"Astronomical" was originally invoked to describe space but that doesn't stop your comment from being astronomically worthless

Re: Silicon Valley programmers pressure friends to quit working at Uber

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I think it bears repeating that there has been no hard evidence turned up in any of this. Even the single non-anonymous story doesn't have any corroborating evidence or records, and the charges of "investigation" and "harassment" have been only reported by the original reporter of the story. The fallout has been that somebody has been let go after non-substantiated rumors about his activities at a previous employer,…

We need to stop doing this in every thread. These women are taking huge risks by speaking publicly and asking for proof is insulting to say the least.

This is an insane reaction. There is literally no other charge for which "I would like to see supporting evidence of this claim" is somehow problematic.
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