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Ask YC: Are you working on your startup/side-project strictly in your spare time?

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Re: Ask YC: Are you working on your startup/side-project strictly in your spare time?

#11
6 and 5 are closely related. The way it worked for me was to

  (a) generate and *polish* the idea; 
    (1) make sure it is technically sound
    (2) not trivial, i.e. not easy to copy
    (3) maps well on business opportunities
    (4) does not have IP (patents, licenses, etc) problems

  (b) implement it about 80-90% through, prepare solid beta
  (c) release beta and see how it's does
  (d) if all goes well, evaluate the progress and estimate how long until the first revenue comes in
Steps (a.2) and (a.3) filter out A LOT of ideas. Step (b) also tends to screw things up as some ideas work out to be hard or even impossible to implement alone or on a modest budget. Steps (c) and (d) are pretty much the last mile before the full-time involvement. If the idea was thought through, the chances of failure on last two steps are not very high.

So I'd say 2+5+6 (+8) is the combination I had. Step (a) took about 2 years, (b) - under a year, (c) - 6 months. Your mileage may obviously vary :)

Re: Ask YC: Are you working on your startup/side-project strictly in your spare time?

#12

I would say supporting a lifestyle is the #1 reason for ppl to have day jobs period. If your kid starves, who cares if your startup succeeds.

"Work doesn't necessarily make you happy/fulfilled but it gives you the money to do the things that make you happy"

Re: Ask YC: Are you working on your startup/side-project strictly in your spare time?

#13

6 and 5 are closely related. The way it worked for me was to (a) generate and *polish* the idea; (1) make sure it is technically sound (2) not trivial, i.e. not easy to copy (3) maps well on business opportunities (4) does not have IP (patents, licenses, etc) problems (b) implement it about 80-90% through, prepare solid beta (c) release beta and see how it's does (d) if all goes well, evaluate the progress and estima…

Just curious - was a.2 something you felt like you HAD to achieve? There's tons of examples of copycat apps out there; some are just better executed than others.

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#15

Great question. I think it's ok to deep-dive in (as long as you wade in). I know some friends who have always worked for themselves, and I am always impressed at their constant confidence. I observe some older folks (and even some around my age) at work and I see they're going through the motions sometimes - I don't want to be them. Build something with passion.. I'm starting to learn Ruby/Ruby on Rails on my train c…

I like what you said about overall portfolio - while my main focus now is to continually improve my technical skills (I work with Rails and learn new things quite often), in the long run it is best to be well-rounded. I'm interested in learning more about business, stock and real-estate investing, and learning to speak new languages.

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#16
9. Failed at full-time (gave myself 6 months). For now, I'm back to enjoying a job + #8.

Maybe I'll try again if I convince myself something's good enough to try for. Are you generating $500/day in value piddling around on your MacBook in Ruby? Are you generating orders of magnitude more than that?

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#17
Of the options you offer, 2, 3 & 6, but I'm also finding the most important benefits of full-time contracting is it's a great way to meet like-minded people who could become collaborators or investors in my business.

I guess also, it's good way to stay in a positive frame of mind. In our first go at running a business, we had no idea what we were doing and after 2-3 years killing ourselves on the startup we ended up broke & depressed. If success breeds success equally failure can breed failure, and after enough time spent with that smell of 'loser' about you, you start to lose the respect of your peers and question your own worth.

It's taken me 2 years to get back on my feet to a point where life is going really well, and I'm enjoying success both in my day job and my startup. Whilst I'd love to quit full time work and focus on the startup (which I may be able to do soon with funding from some of the people I've worked for), having a day job has been great in getting the startup happening. By not relying on it for your living you have more freedom to do it right for the long term, and even if things are tough with the startup, your judgment isn't clouded by panic.

Re: Ask YC: Are you working on your startup/side-project strictly in your spare time?

#18
The main reason is I am going to school, and I don't see any point dropping out just to do a startup. I have many years to do that. But i am doing it on the side as we speak. I have had a few ideas over the year, although I haven't found enough reasons to devote much time to them, which is pretty much (5).

After a recent launch buy a certain fruit theme company I have found an excellent if not a killer idea to really start to think about the next steps. I am current gather people but I do have the issue with number 7 and I am not a hacker by YC's definition. I have started to gather resources (potential people) and working on the side project apart form going to school full time (computer engineering).

Re: Ask YC: Are you working on your startup/side-project strictly in your spare time?

#19

Of the options you offer, 2, 3 & 6, but I'm also finding the most important benefits of full-time contracting is it's a great way to meet like-minded people who could become collaborators or investors in my business. I guess also, it's good way to stay in a positive frame of mind. In our first go at running a business, we had no idea what we were doing and after 2-3 years killing ourselves on the startup we ended up…

"Fear of failure" should be on the list. A lot of people don't know how to deal with failure. Some will let it ruin them, others will rebound as you did.

Those that rebound will have undoubtedly learned valuable lessons for their next try. For people in certain situations and certain stages in life, this is too big of a risk. Failure cannot be an option.

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