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Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by debian3 »

"They have had huge problems with their regular cloud instances though (not the local storage ones), they are based on Ceph and were from time to time unuseable. Also it's sometimes a gamble if the system creates your machine or if it will get stucked, we also had the problem that we couldn't delete instances, they somehow where stuck. Their whole system is based on OpenStack and it seems they have problems managing it (who doesn't)."

I'm curious to learn more about this. I'm currently using OVH public Cloud, and before doing so I was trying to find some review about it. I must say that so far I have no issue with it, but I have been using it for 2 weeks only.

When you say unusable, do you mean it was down or simply too slow? I read a lot of complain about the speed of the storage, but nothing about the stability of their cloud.

Any details would be appreciated.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by mwcampbell »

XERQ wrote: post #27

I'm the founder of SSD Nodes, Inc., which is a bootstrapped SSD-based hosting provider for startups that I've been working on since 2011. Some of our clients have posted benchmarks showing great performance, such as 800MB/s+ throughput and 292K IOPS: https://lowendbox.com/blog/ssdnodes-high-ram-ssd-vps-startin... Direct link to the benchmark: https://serverscope.io/trials/lrAw Special pricing for startups: https://ww…

Interesting. Why did you choose OpenVZ? OpenVZ makes me think of fly-by-night, oversold VPS providers that are barely even adequate for a personal site. Another concern is that with OpenVZ, any Linux kernel privilege escalation vulnerability can be used to escape the virtual server. So I hope you stay on top of kernel security updates. But of course, that requires the host to be rebooted.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by nraynaud »

ranit wrote: post #4

Off-topic. What's up with Frankfurt? 3 of 5 cloud companies compared here have Frankfurt listed as their European data center location.

the underlying explanation of all the other answers is: "its on the Rhine and quite north". The Rhine is historically the most important river of the area, so big cities and populations sprang on it. And, strangely, the Rhine is/was an important connexion to the UK, hence the importance of Frankfurt even on a quite large scale.

Today it still makes sense to go there because Germany is the wealthiest country around, and from there you can serve the entire Paris-Brussels-Amsterdam-Frankfurt area, which includes a lot of people: http://kids.britannica.com/comptons/art-143547/Population-de...

edit: before I get punched by an autist, Frankfurt not ON the Rhine, but it has an incredibly quick access to the Rhine without being subject to its floods.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by mark_lee »

ar0 wrote: post #17
nik736 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For us the requirement is hourly billing and being able to get a working machine within a minute, so no Netcup :). Also, only the network test was performed mainly in Frankfurt. All other tests were Frankfurt, Strasbourg, Haarlem (Location 1) and New York, NJ, NJ, Canada, Paris (Location 2)

Ah, okay, I overlooked the "spin up a new virtual machine within seconds" in the article, sorry for that, and the requirement of multiple locations makes sense too! That way the choice of providers makes much more sense to me (as it also excludes Hetzner, for example).

hetzner is a badass predator, competitors murder.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by kartickv »

hueving wrote: post #60
tedivm wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I sent them a message saying exactly that- I've moved all my machines to linode because the price for the speed (both memory and cpu) is much better. They responded back saying that they are competing on platform, not price.

>They responded back saying that they are competing on platform, not price. A weird thing to say when most people I know who use them are doing it for the cheap price.

Which doesn't mean that they should chase those customers. If they're not generating significant profit, it doesn't matter much whether they stay or leave.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by Hexcles »

tedivm wrote: post #47
sfilargi wrote: post #18

I am a big fun of DO. Their performance is consistent and their support is simply awesome. However I do find myself using Linode lately as I get double the memory for the same price. I hope DO follow and increase the memory on their nodes.

I sent them a message saying exactly that- I've moved all my machines to linode because the price for the speed (both memory and cpu) is much better. They responded back saying that they are competing on platform, not price.

> competing on platform, not price

I believe it'd be more appropriate for Linode to say that, which has long had good reputation in terms of the variety of regions, the quality of network, etc., and which used to be on the more expensive end. DO, on the other hand, actually debuted with the low prices, if anyone remembers.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by kuschku »

peterwwillis wrote: post #10

What's the target market for this "showdown" ? Hopefully not an online business, as all of these providers are the cloud hosting equivalent of shared servers from the early 00's. I've used DO and Linode and both have serious reliability problems that you have to engineer around yourself, and I can't imagine the other providers are any more robust. Linode was too pricy for what they provided back when I tried them, to…

> Even if they were more reliable systems than they are now, the bigger they are the more they attract attacks on their core. Only the giants like Amazon and Google, or more professional (read: expensive) providers have the resources to deal with it.

You do realize that OVH weathered DDoSes largee than 1100Gbps in the past, without issues?

And that, like Scaleway, it belongs to a large french ISP with a nationwide network, own backbones, and they are even developing and using their own hardware?

These are giants.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by emilyfm »

nodesocket wrote: post #50

The article is very detailed and does a great job, but they don't mention DigitalOcean load balances. Load balancers are a must have infrastructure puzzle piece these days. DO did a fantastic job on their lb offering and for $20 a month they are quite powerful (http and tcp) with configurable health checks and failover.

I've been using a Linode load balancer for three years now (it's also $20/mo), in front of a bunch of vps's.

Allows me to have zero-downtime upgrades by switching servers out of the rotation, and also not be concerned if individual servers die or are rebooted (which is very rare anyway).

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