What it feels like to be an open-source maintainer
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What it feels like to be an open-source maintainer
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Re: What it feels like to be an open-source maintainer
#2I’ve already told my partner that, if and when we decide to start having kids, I will probably quit open source for good. I just can’t see how I’ll be able to make the time for both raising a family and doing open source. I anticipate that ultimately this will be the solution to my problem: the nuclear option. I just hope it comes in a positive form, like starting a new chapter of my life, and not in a negative form, like unceremoniously burning out.
I sometimes forget behind a lot of my favourite open source projects there are real life people with real fulltime jobs that aren't related to the projects.
Re: What it feels like to be an open-source maintainer
#3I am lucky to combine open-source and work but this doesn't mean that those issue don't affect us. Endless stream of issues, anger and expectations is a norm. I love open-source and at the same time sometimes it feels like my work just makes people angry.
Every time that angry to-be users shows up, I am trying to remind myself that for every one of them there are hundredths or thousands of happy ones.
It is also important to find a balance on what you work on. Will resolving this issue solve problem of many users, how many, is it the aim of a project.
Other important value is being able to say no. "Sorry, this is not issue of this project", "No, this feature doesn't align with the aim of a project" and even in case of PRs (which is extremely hard as someone put quite a work into it) you sometimes have to say no.
This might be the hardest part of maintaining open-source, this and noise overload. There is no input filter, if you are luck other contributors will step in and act as one but it isn't sustainable either.
Re: What it feels like to be an open-source maintainer
#4Look, you're doing it wrong. You don't need to apply this kind of 100% customer-service attitude to open source software development.
It is simply a waste of time for a developer to answer every trivial question, or address non-issues.
Have a clear format and policy on what kind of contributions you accept: bugreports, patches, etc. If the sender fails to comply with the rules, ignore the input.
Re: What it feels like to be an open-source maintainer
#5have you considered asking for help? contributors can do more than just submit PRs and create bug tickets.
Re: What it feels like to be an open-source maintainer
#6Apparently you've avoided one of the greatest joys of open source... forks.
I worked for 7 years on an open source project with hundreds of people subscribed. My most trusted maintainer started a drumbeat about project goals that ended up causing two forks, decimating the user community, and destroying a lot of potential. Even more interesting is that all I ever seem to get, if I get mentioned at all, is negative press. But, as John Gorka once said, "What matters most is what you do for free".
As for the worry about combining open source and money... forget it. William Stein, lead developer of Sage, built Sage using grant funds and graduate students. Unfortunately the grant money dried up and the students graduated. He has since taken a leave of absence and started a company in the hope of keeping the project alive. Wish him luck.
I've looked for funding from a number of different sources, government, industry, and a separate business, all without success. I spent an average of $3,000 per year for the last 16 years, all out of personal funds. That's assuming my time is $0/hour.
Rest assured, mixing open source and money is the least of your worries.
So why do open source programming? Real musicians MUST make music, in spite of poverty wages. It's not what they DO, it's what they ARE. Similarly, I'm a programmer... it is what I am, not what I do.
Re: What it feels like to be an open-source maintainer
#7Since I still like my projects and my family, I decided to give the finger to the so called «open source community».
Most open source users see open source devs as the cheapest workforce on earth they can bully.
I decided I couldn't care less of the opinions of strangers and went on after numerous IP violations, and decided to give up on helping people trying to just abuse benevolent people.
I am a MINOR -like shit- dev, famous/respected (for good reasons) devs that are treated like shit and still behave nicely are suffering for me of a major Stockholm Syndrome.
Someone trample you while you try to make a gift, my policy is to headbutt directly.
I ignore github notifications nowadays aggressively. I interact with people at the speed with which people interact with me IRL (which is slow), and decided since even a minor dev's code is good enough to be stolen I must be great, and thus should treat myself like a star.
Help yourself, be a human that behave as if life was too precious to be spoiled. Have fun, be wild, enjoy life.
Re: What it feels like to be an open-source maintainer
#8Since I still like my projects and my family, I decided to give the finger to the so called «open source community». Most open source users see open source devs as the cheapest workforce on earth they can bully. I decided I couldn't care less of the opinions of strangers and went on after numerous IP violations, and decided to give up on helping people trying to just abuse benevolent people. I am a MINOR -like shit-…
> Have fun, be wild, enjoy life
Absolutely love and agree with this.
Re: What it feels like to be an open-source maintainer
#9Apparently you've avoided one of the greatest joys of open source... forks. I worked for 7 years on an open source project with hundreds of people subscribed. My most trusted maintainer started a drumbeat about project goals that ended up causing two forks, decimating the user community, and destroying a lot of potential. Even more interesting is that all I ever seem to get, if I get mentioned at all, is negative pre…
> As for the worry about combining open source and money... forget it.
I dunno... I've done well. Offices in Canada and France, 6 people working for me (not all full-time).
The key for me is to sell services around the software, and also sell support. If it takes people 10 days to figure out how to do something, a decent percentage of them will pay you to do it for them.
But it has to be the right market, too. Selling to consumers is a non-starter. You need to sell to people who have money.
Re: What it feels like to be an open-source maintainer
#10Since I still like my projects and my family, I decided to give the finger to the so called «open source community». Most open source users see open source devs as the cheapest workforce on earth they can bully. I decided I couldn't care less of the opinions of strangers and went on after numerous IP violations, and decided to give up on helping people trying to just abuse benevolent people. I am a MINOR -like shit-…
Amen