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Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Off-topic. What's up with Frankfurt? 3 of 5 cloud companies compared here have Frankfurt listed as their European data center location.

Location of DE-CIX, primary european internet exchange (according to themselves the one with the largest throughput worldwide, but AFAIK that's disputed)

It's either DE-CIX or AMS-IX. I believe AMS have more members and higher average throughput, but CIX have higher potential throughput.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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After seeing positive Scaleway mentions here on HN several times I opened an account to test performance. Damn it was slow, and I had set my expectations very low.

I can understand for a site that didn't need CPU-heavy performance (I intended to use it for a personal Nextcloud instance) but my main issue was with reboot time. Change any settings in the control panel? Reboot needed. Applied kernel updates and need to restart? Wait for that reboot. It was agonizing, I had to abandon the process and check back an hour later to see if starting or stopping the machine had completed.

Even when I decided I was done and ready to cancel, one more wait of 40+ minutes for the machine to shut down so I could delete it and release the reserved IP. I admire the fact that they decided to try something very different, but forcing every customer to copy the entire contents of their drive to a second device and then copy it all back again to restart is nuts.

Currently on OVH for most things (by far the best performance/price ratio for my usage) but still keeping a couple DigitalOcean VPSs due to concerns about OVH's 'special' version of Ubuntu[0], which has me concerned. Hope that's resolved soon or I'm back to DO + AWS as a Plan B.

[0]https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/12/01/taking-a-stand-agains...

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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I'm glad someone included the two leading French hosting providers in their benchmark. I have ~10 servers hosted by both OVH and Online (not Scaleway yet) and I believe they do a very correct job for a terrific price. BTW: both have more expensive offerings if you need strongers SLAs. What I don't like with OVH's offering is that they have 3 different brands (OVH, SYS and KS) and you need 3 different accounts, contro…

I will second this. I have two of these very cheap VPSes from OVH mentioned in the article, one in France and one in Québec, and in my experience they have been very reliable and have good performance for their price. In my experience, for "hobbyist" use cases having more RAM is more important than having a 1 Gbps connection - most of the time your stuff will not be that popular to the outside world, but you might want to experiment with different tools which will explode if you only have 512 MB of RAM (as Vultr offers on their new 2.50$ plan).

I will also second the comment on the confusing offerings of OVH, though. Their three brands are one thing, the other thing is that even their main OVH website looks totally different (with different products being offered) depending on which country you select on the top right. I have the feeling they are working on this right now (their different country websites are beginning to look more and more similar), but it can be really confusing. Also, chances are high that you will end up in some French configuration menu eventually. (I can understand that they will find this a bit unfair, as all the other players of course can just develop their websites in their native language and don't have to worry about this. But still it's not that professional.)

On the other hand, for a German test I find it interesting that they didn't include netcup, which also offers very cheap and high-quality VPSes from Germany (although they suffer from the same confusion regarding their websites - when you switch to English the products are different and for some reason much more expensive than on the German version).

And then, of course, there is also time4vps.eu if you want to go really cheap.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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I'm glad someone included the two leading French hosting providers in their benchmark. I have ~10 servers hosted by both OVH and Online (not Scaleway yet) and I believe they do a very correct job for a terrific price. BTW: both have more expensive offerings if you need strongers SLAs. What I don't like with OVH's offering is that they have 3 different brands (OVH, SYS and KS) and you need 3 different accounts, contro…

I will second this. I have two of these very cheap VPSes from OVH mentioned in the article, one in France and one in Québec, and in my experience they have been very reliable and have good performance for their price. In my experience, for "hobbyist" use cases having more RAM is more important than having a 1 Gbps connection - most of the time your stuff will not be that popular to the outside world, but you might wa…

For us the requirement is hourly billing and being able to get a working machine within a minute, so no Netcup :). Also, only the network test was performed mainly in Frankfurt. All other tests were Frankfurt, Strasbourg, Haarlem (Location 1) and New York, NJ, NJ, Canada, Paris (Location 2)

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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I'd be curious to see how the numbers from wholesaleinternet.net stack up - auto-provisioned bare metal hosting for the same (monthly) price as cloud VMs.

Do you have any of their cheap ($10/month) instances? I follow them for some time and the cheapest ones are always out of stock.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will second this. I have two of these very cheap VPSes from OVH mentioned in the article, one in France and one in Québec, and in my experience they have been very reliable and have good performance for their price. In my experience, for "hobbyist" use cases having more RAM is more important than having a 1 Gbps connection - most of the time your stuff will not be that popular to the outside world, but you might wa…

For us the requirement is hourly billing and being able to get a working machine within a minute, so no Netcup :). Also, only the network test was performed mainly in Frankfurt. All other tests were Frankfurt, Strasbourg, Haarlem (Location 1) and New York, NJ, NJ, Canada, Paris (Location 2)

Ah, okay, I overlooked the "spin up a new virtual machine within seconds" in the article, sorry for that, and the requirement of multiple locations makes sense too! That way the choice of providers makes much more sense to me (as it also excludes Hetzner, for example).

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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I'm glad someone included the two leading French hosting providers in their benchmark. I have ~10 servers hosted by both OVH and Online (not Scaleway yet) and I believe they do a very correct job for a terrific price. BTW: both have more expensive offerings if you need strongers SLAs. What I don't like with OVH's offering is that they have 3 different brands (OVH, SYS and KS) and you need 3 different accounts, contro…

Or that they limit what you can use in your passwords (no accents for example).

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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What's the target market for this "showdown" ? Hopefully not an online business, as all of these providers are the cloud hosting equivalent of shared servers from the early 00's. I've used DO and Linode and both have serious reliability problems that you have to engineer around yourself, and I can't imagine the other providers are any more robust. Linode was too pricy for what they provided back when I tried them, to…

I thought several minutes about answering you, but here we go...

I have several DO droplets running, one is running for 4 years now, zero downtime. I heared about some problems but that were no massive outages, but rather single host systems failing, which is no problem, since you should built your application that way that one VM failing is no problem. It happens everywhere, on Bare Metal, on AWS, on Google Cloud, etc.

Linode cut their pricing (or rather improved their plans) and started offering a $5 plan, I don't see how they are too pricey compared to the competition.

You pay a massive amount of money on AWS to be protected against DDoS, otherwise they will just bill you the bandwidth costs (that are very very high compared to those companies compared in the blog post).

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