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Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Probably switching from macOs to Arch Linux soon myself

Why is arch so popular among switchers? It is not very user friendly and requires manual work to set up unlike, say, ubuntu

For me, three reasons:

- Pacman (with pacaur on top of it)

- The Arch Wiki

- Bleeding-edge software

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Oh please. Not this again. I recently had the pleasure of checking in on Windows for the second time in 7 years. I had been a PC user since the DOS days, starting on a 286, and going all the way to Windows 8 when I switched to Macs around 2010. I've only ever needed Windows for games since then, and decided to install Boot Camp on the 15" 2016 MacBook Pro that I just got (which happens to be a pretty good machine [1]…

Sad but true. Apple may be on a slow descent, but they have years until their flight path intersects the nether realms of Windows. Granted, Windows has a usable file manager (Explorer) and Finder is an embarrassment, but theres always Path Finder.

Path Finder is great, but I've always hated how on OS X you have to pay for 3rd party replacements of even the most basic software.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The UI remains a convoluted Escher'esque nightmare. Comments like this make it hard to take any side of the discussion seriously. /Neither/ of the OSes are "Escher'esque nightmare[s]." My elderly mother can kludge her way through both of them, more or less reliably - admittedly, with more trouble than using her phone, but not a lot more. Nothing that a tech-illiterate can reasonably use on a day-to-day basis qualif…

> Comments like this make it hard to take any side of the discussion seriously. /Neither/ of the OSes are "Escher'esque nightmare[s]." • macOS Finder: http://i.imgur.com/9Y5hK0e.png • Windows Explorer: http://i.imgur.com/ef7CnJ4.png Alright. Maybe not nightmarish, but one of these IS objectively more convoluted than the other. Let's start with something simple: WHY does the "Options" button on the Windows Explorer Ri…

That ribbon is hidden by default.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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It's very clear that this is all about gaming and game development. Please 302'd yourself to glorious /r/pcmasterrace.

> On the developer side? Nothing, unless you use XCode

> Their hardware is underpowered

> Gaming on Mac, which initially showed promising signs of life had started dying in 2015

> brings dedicated gaming features, full OS-level VR support, color customization

> NVIDIA GTX 1080 graphics card is an insane work-horse that can play any game

> On top of that? I can play recent games without the PC breaking a sweat, and I’ve started experimenting with VR

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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It is so funny to read these Apple vs. Windows discussions when you live outside of North America... The truth is that, for the rest of the world, "Apple platform" means only iOS, only the IPhone, nothing more. In Asia, Africa, Latin America and some parts of Europe, Macs and OSX are a rare species, most people spend years without even seeing a Mac computer "in the wild". They are used only for graphics editing and I…

Here in Germany I see Mac products every day. Even in the train there are more MacBooks than Windows Laptops.

that is not true. people use clearly more windows laptops in germany

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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It is so funny to read these Apple vs. Windows discussions when you live outside of North America... The truth is that, for the rest of the world, "Apple platform" means only iOS, only the IPhone, nothing more. In Asia, Africa, Latin America and some parts of Europe, Macs and OSX are a rare species, most people spend years without even seeing a Mac computer "in the wild". They are used only for graphics editing and I…

Have you ever been outside of North America. I see Mac's all over Europe all the time. Not only in developer friendly environments. Busses, trains, coffee shops,...

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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I'm not 100% happy with where Apple is at, but I don't think I ever was. But I'm not going to switch. I get the slickest hardware, great battery life, the best touchpad and keyboard, and a hi-resolution screen that doesn't have battery life, flicker, tint, or scaling issues. Windows is still...Windows. The bash subsystem is half-baked. Windows itself is still the same mess. Docking is still a joke. Performance is ter…

There's definitely a green tint that sometimes develops on my Mac after a long usage and a simple Google search shows that I am not alone.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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I'm not 100% happy with where Apple is at, but I don't think I ever was. But I'm not going to switch. I get the slickest hardware, great battery life, the best touchpad and keyboard, and a hi-resolution screen that doesn't have battery life, flicker, tint, or scaling issues. Windows is still...Windows. The bash subsystem is half-baked. Windows itself is still the same mess. Docking is still a joke. Performance is ter…

I am using bash extensively on the newest insider build (so this is coming in creators update), bash is working flawlessly.

I have no problems with scaling with a combination of 4k, 1080p and 2736x1824 monitors. (It's working great, though it's true it didn't work like that a year ago)

With a surface book you get hardware that's even better quality than any Apple laptop, and actually has a detachable screen I can write on (this isn't a gimmick, I'm using it daily as a software developer).

No idea what you mean with saying "Windows is still a mess", maybe give an argument for that?

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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> But recently, I realized I’d gotten tired of Apple’s attitude toward the desktop. The progress in macOS land has basically been dead since Yosemite, two years ago, and Apple’s updates to the platform have been incredibly small. So, like creating a full blown new programming language (Swift)? Or a full new filesystem (AFS)? Integration of Cloud storage directly to the desktop? Siri on the desktop? Saving RAM through…

>So, like creating a full blown new programming language (Swift)? Byproduct of Apple's work on mobile. > Or a full new filesystem (AFS)? Byproduct of Apple's work on mobile. > Siri on the desktop? Byproduct of mobile again! (By the way, ask Siri on Mac to set an alarm or interact with homekit!) But, I take your point. I tried to mostly detail Apple's lack of attention for developers, but perhaps missed the emphasis o…

I think a pretty good summary is about 3 years ago Microsoft realized it had a couple of failed stratagies.

1) Catering to casual. Xbox one launch is probably the best example. They wanted to become the home media center so the entire launch and discussion was centered around sports streaming and social media. + Kinect.

2) Desperately trying to get a foothold in mobile.

I think they realized people weren't going for either. Sony focusing on games and hardware killed it initially in sales, and still kind of does. Apple and Android had two corners of the market and MS could make a space for a third.

They pivoted, targeted "professionals" and that's what you see in their approach for Xbox & PC. I think it's overall good, but saying Apple abandoned developer is sort of desparate fear mongering.

Apple's strategy has always been pretty consistent, focus a lot of resources on making a good ecosystem. More recently it seems that's changed to "focus a lot of resources on making the best systems, and allow for a great ecosystem" with sponsoring third party monitors, and apple's home automation front.

I think it's still a pretty good strategy, but with windows catching up with some "pro" features like their own premium desktops and laptops and adding in old features like "workspaces" people jump to say Apple "abandoned" them when they're still kind of sticking to the same successful strategy.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Unlike the article, I'm not as interested in new features. I really want to stop having to type killall Finder because I dragged too many files. Its like Apple doesn't actually use its own products for day to day work. The whole "Save As" fiasco really screwed a lot of workflows which they sort of fixed later but not for Preview. Networking has also been a constant issue. I just wish I didn't keep putting in radars "…

>I really want to stop having to type killall Finder because I dragged too many files.

For what it's worth, I think this will be addressed by the switch to AFS.

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