I wander between Mac, PC and Linux on a regular cycle of displeasure.
Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up
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Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up
#122> But recently, I realized I’d gotten tired of Apple’s attitude toward the desktop. The progress in macOS land has basically been dead since Yosemite, two years ago, and Apple’s updates to the platform have been incredibly small. So, like creating a full blown new programming language (Swift)? Or a full new filesystem (AFS)? Integration of Cloud storage directly to the desktop? Siri on the desktop? Saving RAM through…
I'm way more than three years with the Mac platform, and I have similar concerns. The impression I get is that Apple are not particularly interested in the computer market as opposed to the mobile (phone/tablet) market.
I think it is a question of emphasis. You've focused on the OS, but not all the innovation was in the OS itself. Remember when they added iLife? That was a big deal. Software you had to pay for on Windows was bundled free, and it was good. Everyone used iPhoto, iMovie was nice, GarageBand was awesome, although probably not everyone needed it.
(Good lord, just checked, iLife debuted (minus GarageBand) on 10.1. Evidently, I've been using MacBooks longer than I realized.)
The sense that they have an exciting vision and plan for the future of how people use and relate to the computer is gone. That sort of vision and the innovation that goes with it is reserved for the mobile space now.
They are still fine computers, particularly the notebooks, but the mobile products are driving the process now. I do think that is a shame.
Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up
#123I used to be hardcore windows guy... Then 10 years ago I got a mac. I never went back.. But what am I saving money for right now? To build a nice PC again. Mostly because of the exact reasons in the article. I have a fondness for apple... but they have definitely lost their way. First, they were a computer company driven by a man who loved computers ("first" here is the Jobs return era) ... then they became a Compute…
> I wont buy a laptop without a magsafe or similar connection Check this out: https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-po...
Careful: BreakSafe is rated up to 60 watts (20 volts @ 3 amps), and has been designed and tested to meet USB-C power standards.
Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up
#124If someone wants a good development platform and is leaving the Mac, why not switch to Linux rather than Windows? Windows is IMHO not pleasant to use: the ads, the UI, the lack of speed. Linux is ad-free, pleasant & beautiful (with StumpWM anyway; Unity, GNOME & KDE aren't so great), and blazingly fast. Plus it's free software.
When I read "ads" I had to do a double-take. I find it really surprising that people are willing to tolerate an OS with built-in "malware". Is it because people simply aren't aware that there are alternatives?
No, it's because when there are three main alternatives, and the one with ads has massive market share, you are necessarily going to have some people using it.
Including people who don't actually tolerate the ads, but who need to target that platform.
Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up
#125It is so funny to read these Apple vs. Windows discussions when you live outside of North America... The truth is that, for the rest of the world, "Apple platform" means only iOS, only the IPhone, nothing more. In Asia, Africa, Latin America and some parts of Europe, Macs and OSX are a rare species, most people spend years without even seeing a Mac computer "in the wild". They are used only for graphics editing and I…
Uhm no. Here in Norway Apple is huge. Go to a major Asian city and there are Macbooks everywhere. Sure there is higher percentage of Apple among some devs and for places with higher income, but to call a major product from one of the most valuable companies in the world "exotic" is absurd.
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Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up
#126I'd like to remind you all that there's nothing to gain in sticking to a single OS.
Invest in learning some apps that are multi-OS, for example Firefox/Chrome, LibreOffice, Visual Studio Code or even Steam.
Be flexible, use the right tool for the job. Don't be a hater.
Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up
#127It is so funny to read these Apple vs. Windows discussions when you live outside of North America... The truth is that, for the rest of the world, "Apple platform" means only iOS, only the IPhone, nothing more. In Asia, Africa, Latin America and some parts of Europe, Macs and OSX are a rare species, most people spend years without even seeing a Mac computer "in the wild". They are used only for graphics editing and I…
And in India where all the developers live - Apple MBPs are everywhere
Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up
#128Oh please. Not this again. I recently had the pleasure of checking in on Windows for the second time in 7 years. I had been a PC user since the DOS days, starting on a 286, and going all the way to Windows 8 when I switched to Macs around 2010. I've only ever needed Windows for games since then, and decided to install Boot Camp on the 15" 2016 MacBook Pro that I just got (which happens to be a pretty good machine [1]…
> The UI remains a convoluted Escher'esque nightmare.
Comments like this make it hard to take any side of the discussion seriously.
/Neither/ of the OSes are "Escher'esque nightmare[s]." My elderly mother can kludge her way through both of them, more or less reliably - admittedly, with more trouble than using her phone, but not a lot more.
Nothing that a tech-illiterate can reasonably use on a day-to-day basis qualifies as a "nightmare." Can we please stop pitching hyperbole-for-effect until it nullifies the entire discussion?
Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up
#129> The progress in macOS land has basically been dead since Yosemite, two years ago, And the progress on Windows's side is what exactly? For the end users, instead of business corporations, practically nothing changes. I swear every freaking version of Windows nearly everything about the user experience is similar to before. It looks nicer at first glance, but once you open some apps, particularly the windows apps lik…
> And the progress on Windows's side is what exactly?
Safety, performance, stability, easier UI (for the average user).
Yeah, none of these things feature well in tv advertisements, but compared to its predecessors Windows 10 actually does excel in all of those. Heck, i installed 10 on my parents' cheapo PC and with the same programs and such installed it actually is more responsive.
> It stills sucks majorly at giving you a proper estimate of the time it will take to copy a file.
That's not a software problem, that's a hardware problem. Particularly on SSDs you have to deal with deletions being surprisingly slow, and in the copying process itself you often have a very fast phase at the beginning when it's just slurping the file into ram; and then it drops off when it runs into the write limit of the target medium and/or runs out of ram to use cache. If you're copying to the same medium you get an even stronger drop due to read/write happening on the same thing.
Predicting this is HARD.
The only way to get reliable predictions out of the copy dialog would be to disable memory caching while copying, and uh, you kinda don't want that. It would just be predictably slow.
Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up
#130More FOTM moaning about the state of Apple. I can't believe people keep reading these "I left Apple and here's why you should care" articles by front end devs with no real idea of what goes into OS dev and where macOS has come from since the days of OS8. Give me a break, surely if you want to use Windows you don't need to write 2000 words in the form of some needlessly pronoun heavy (because your opinion is really im…
Welcome to the Internet, where people express their opinions on matters that are often trivial in the grand scheme of things. I trust you are equally annoyed at posts praising Macs?
macOS has never been more stable or developer friendly
The OS is fine, although largely in maintenance mode. The hardware value is poor and has gotten significantly worse in the last few years. I'm typing this on a retina iMac that I'm very happy with, but if I had to replace it there's no Mac that I would consider now that Windows has decent high-DPI support.