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Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by RileyKyeden »

coldtea wrote: post #30
jmcdiesel wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It says a lot. The desktop isnt a phone. Forcing phone features into a desktop and slowly turning the desktop into iOS is not a good thing. We were just fine without an app store. Just fine. I cant think of any of the "use this mobile feature on your desktop" that provides any real value...

> Forcing phone features into a desktop and slowly turning the desktop into iOS is not a good thing. Siri, maybe, but there's nothing about an FS or a programming language like Swift that makes them a "phone feature". Same for memory compression (which only exists on the Mac IIRC) and continuity (which would be useful even if it only worked from Mac to Mac). If anything Apple has adamantly refused to "force phone fea…

> Same for memory compression (which only exists on the Mac IIRC) and continuity (which would be useful even if it only worked from Mac to Mac).

Windows 10 has memory compression.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by bobsam »

quinndupont wrote: post #34

I'm in the same boat (with everyone, it seems). One remaining big differentiator, for me, is the resell value and service support of Macs. I can use a Mac for three full years, under warranty, and then turn around and sell it used the day AppleCare expires. And, I can regularly get 50-60% of original sale price (realizing that I've also sunk $300 for AppleCare and taxes). After three years, you'd be hard pressed to g…

I know multiple people who regularly buy 3-5 year old Lenovos.

Not at 50% of the original price, but still...

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by makecheck »

Okay, let’s give this article the proper headline: you are returning to Windows after just a couple of years, “a life-long Windows user” (from article). You basically were on the Mac for a single product generation.

Also, you’ve conveniently left out a hell of a lot about what’s wrong with Windows 10, starting with the utterly insane way that Microsoft shoehorned it onto most people’s systems. Microsoft has done well, and they have made some reasonable moves for developers but you have some fog-covered glasses here.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by phodo »

nik736 wrote: post #48

Looking through my dock, I would miss the following: Spark, Safari, Terminal (no, Hyper is no proper terminal compared to the native one), Paw, Sketch, Postico, Transmit, Bear, Pages, Numbers, Keynote and Textual. I think I would even miss small things like the Finder listing options, it's just that macOS was may many years ahead and Microsoft is playing catch up just now but has too much to catch up too, so I will w…

How does paw compare to postman?

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by jccalhoun »

owenwil wrote: post #15
otterley wrote: post #13

The question I'm left asking from posts like these is: As a non-game developer, what practical advantages does Windows hardware and software provide over Mac? The writing doesn't make it clear to me. Sure, there are some interesting facts noted, but there's no connection drawn or relationship established between the facts and the impact on the author's ability to work, or the work product itself.

Why not spin it around the other way? What advantages does Mac now have over Windows, in a world where Microsoft is catering to developers from both sides?

While I don't want to hijack the op's thread, I would like to hear more about the advantages of the mac. I listen to some mac-centric podcasts and hear them complain about the current state of the mac so much but when they mention windows they just say vague things like "but windows is worse." So what is better about a mac?

To give more detail on my use case: I'm not a developer so things like terminal or unix don't really matter to me. And I don't think I've had a virus since the 90s.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by scandox »

bluedino wrote: post #41

I'm not 100% happy with where Apple is at, but I don't think I ever was. But I'm not going to switch. I get the slickest hardware, great battery life, the best touchpad and keyboard, and a hi-resolution screen that doesn't have battery life, flicker, tint, or scaling issues. Windows is still...Windows. The bash subsystem is half-baked. Windows itself is still the same mess. Docking is still a joke. Performance is ter…

I live in Linux world (Archville with visits over the border to Debiana). I admit getting things ideal takes a while and every 9 or 10 months something melts down but the cost is a couple of days here or there.

The cost of Mac or Windows is cumulatively huge for me: on both I regularly sit wondering when some incidental operation will end.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by gist »

Razengan wrote: post #21

Oh please. Not this again. I recently had the pleasure of checking in on Windows for the second time in 7 years. I had been a PC user since the DOS days, starting on a 286, and going all the way to Windows 8 when I switched to Macs around 2010. I've only ever needed Windows for games since then, and decided to install Boot Camp on the 15" 2016 MacBook Pro that I just got (which happens to be a pretty good machine [1]…

> Oh please. Not this again.

Exactly. Honestly it's linkbate nonsense. Sucks you in like a car crash on the side of the road or a hockey fight.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by baobrain »

mycall wrote: post #60
jmcdiesel wrote: post #17

I used to be hardcore windows guy... Then 10 years ago I got a mac. I never went back.. But what am I saving money for right now? To build a nice PC again. Mostly because of the exact reasons in the article. I have a fondness for apple... but they have definitely lost their way. First, they were a computer company driven by a man who loved computers ("first" here is the Jobs return era) ... then they became a Compute…

> I wont buy a laptop without a magsafe or similar connection What about wireless charging? I see magsafe as deprecated and only Macbook air has it now.

Wireless charging is horribly inefficient...IIRC there aren't even any that go over 10W.

Magsafe may be deprecated by Apple, but that's a step backwards in functionality. One cannot deny that using USB C for charging is inferior in terms of protecting the device.

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Post by vhakulinen »

owenwil wrote: post #15
otterley wrote: post #13

The question I'm left asking from posts like these is: As a non-game developer, what practical advantages does Windows hardware and software provide over Mac? The writing doesn't make it clear to me. Sure, there are some interesting facts noted, but there's no connection drawn or relationship established between the facts and the impact on the author's ability to work, or the work product itself.

Why not spin it around the other way? What advantages does Mac now have over Windows, in a world where Microsoft is catering to developers from both sides?

If you "can" switch between Windows Mac, why not give linux a spin? Like, if you're not building apps with native UI kits on those platforms, what is holding you on them?

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by ivraatiems »

bobsam wrote: post #49
ivraatiems wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have hard evidence either way, but I'd argue no. Ars' recent article on the bizarreness of the upcoming Creators' Update is one example.[1] [1] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/02/forth...

Creators update is not even released, what are you talking about??

...did you read the article? I'm not gonna summarize it for you, but typically, even insider builds have not been this buggy.
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