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Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by bluedino »

I'm not 100% happy with where Apple is at, but I don't think I ever was. But I'm not going to switch.

I get the slickest hardware, great battery life, the best touchpad and keyboard, and a hi-resolution screen that doesn't have battery life, flicker, tint, or scaling issues.

Windows is still...Windows. The bash subsystem is half-baked. Windows itself is still the same mess. Docking is still a joke. Performance is terrible, laptop hardware is still 'almost-as-good', display scaling is a joke, and the ecosystem is still fragmented beyond belief.

Linux is still as bad as it ever was. It's a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. I've been using Linux on laptops since Redhat 7 (the first one from 2000) and a Dell Latitude C-series.

Somehow I shut my laptop off and it booted backup to a failure message, I had to make another bootable USB and go online to find out how to do a fsck. I was using external monitors without issue for a month, and then one day the configuration changed to a point where I couldn't even use the laptop with it's built-in display. The sound and volume controls are a joke. I was prevented from installing any packages because of an issue with a package from Google.

All fairly minor, fixable issues, but I forgot all about them because I haven't had to deal with crap like that since I switched to a Mac back in 2010.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by daxfohl »

jmcdiesel wrote: post #17

I used to be hardcore windows guy... Then 10 years ago I got a mac. I never went back.. But what am I saving money for right now? To build a nice PC again. Mostly because of the exact reasons in the article. I have a fondness for apple... but they have definitely lost their way. First, they were a computer company driven by a man who loved computers ("first" here is the Jobs return era) ... then they became a Compute…

Death throes, not death throws, fwiw.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by Cowicide »

ivraatiems wrote: post #6

Agreed on Apple dropping the ball. But Windows 10, while certainly better than modern OS X or Windows 8 does not have the stability or adherence to well-tested design that Windows 7 had. W10 has seen serious quality assurance issues[1], partly as a result of Microsoft cutting large amounts of QA testers as it switched development methodologies. This has lead to an immense number of mistakes, bugs, and unhandled cases…

What makes Windows 10 better than macOS Sierra, in your opinion? I use both every day for similar projects and find that Windows 10 is lacking compared to Sierra overall.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by protomyth »

Unlike the article, I'm not as interested in new features. I really want to stop having to type killall Finder because I dragged too many files. Its like Apple doesn't actually use its own products for day to day work. The whole "Save As" fiasco really screwed a lot of workflows which they sort of fixed later but not for Preview. Networking has also been a constant issue. I just wish I didn't keep putting in radars "still an issue".

They need Snow Leopard 2, and someone who cares about PC hardware.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by pka »

dylankbuckley wrote: post #2

My first computer was an iBook G3. I loved it. I have never owned a PC, and reading this post makes me sad ... because it's true. The reality that in the next few years I imagine the Mac to be killed entirely is an awful prospect but one we should probably prepare ourselves for.

Even Apple's current leadership can't be stupid enough to do that. If they kill the Mac/MacBook, who is gonna write the apps for their mobile platforms?

Or maybe they can, judging by the last MBP release. Hopefully they turn it around.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by coldtea »

1_2__3 wrote: post #29
coldtea wrote: post #3

> But recently, I realized I’d gotten tired of Apple’s attitude toward the desktop. The progress in macOS land has basically been dead since Yosemite, two years ago, and Apple’s updates to the platform have been incredibly small. So, like creating a full blown new programming language (Swift)? Or a full new filesystem (AFS)? Integration of Cloud storage directly to the desktop? Siri on the desktop? Saving RAM through…

Er isn't AFS still essentially vapor ware at this point?

No, it has essentially already shipped with Sierra (only in demo mode for developers), and it's already on route with the final 10.3 iOS version (currently in beta) to become the official iOS FS.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by coldtea »

owenwil wrote: post #35
1_2__3 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Er isn't AFS still essentially vapor ware at this point?

On iOS Apple switched it to being the default update quietly in a point release: https://arstechnica.com/apple/2017/01/ios-10-3-will-be-apple... It actually shows marked performance improvements, but that's because it focuses on performance on the type of storage an iPhone uses.

>but that's because it focuses on performance on the type of storage an iPhone uses.

If that's solid state storage, then it's the same storage all Macs will also use in the future (and most models now).

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by nik736 »

Looking through my dock, I would miss the following: Spark, Safari, Terminal (no, Hyper is no proper terminal compared to the native one), Paw, Sketch, Postico, Transmit, Bear, Pages, Numbers, Keynote and Textual.

I think I would even miss small things like the Finder listing options, it's just that macOS was may many years ahead and Microsoft is playing catch up just now but has too much to catch up too, so I will wait at least several more years to even consider Windows viable.

Even if macOS stagnates for the following years, it's still the better OS for me. I am on a Hackintosh btw, so the hardware advantages are non existent.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by bobsam »

ivraatiems wrote: post #26
addicted wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's from 2014. Have things changed since then?

I don't have hard evidence either way, but I'd argue no. Ars' recent article on the bizarreness of the upcoming Creators' Update is one example.[1] [1] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/02/forth...

Creators update is not even released, what are you talking about??

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by angry-hacker »

Razengan wrote: post #21

Oh please. Not this again. I recently had the pleasure of checking in on Windows for the second time in 7 years. I had been a PC user since the DOS days, starting on a 286, and going all the way to Windows 8 when I switched to Macs around 2010. I've only ever needed Windows for games since then, and decided to install Boot Camp on the 15" 2016 MacBook Pro that I just got (which happens to be a pretty good machine [1]…

The fact that I still had to do 3 hours worth of updates and restarts after fresh install is beyond me.

Install (only) MS Word - - another cycle of updates. Restart, check updates, more updates!!! It's just insane. Why does it download Outlook spam filter update, 100mb?I don't have Outlook installed, I only wanted freaking MS Word.

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