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Comcast-Owned Vox Runs Commercial for Comcast’s $500M Snapchat Investment

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Re: Comcast-Owned Vox Runs Commercial for Comcast’s $500M Snapchat Investment

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Which is strange, as Vox and it's child companies usually do a good job of disclosing things like this.

There was another example in this very article of them writing a glowing defense of Comcast, which they neglected to put a disclaimer on until a large outcry caught up with them. Where are you getting your opinion that they "usually do a good job of disclosing things"?

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Does anyone else deeply distrust Vox? The quality varies a LOT, they frequently present opinions as facts, etc. The weird thing is they have moments of brilliance like the "Liberal Smugness" piece - but search "Vox News article" and it looks like even the left really hates them. They seem more interested in telling me how to feel than the facts, I guess. I wish the rest of the world had the same pride in journalism a…

I'd argue that Vox is closer to MSM than it's viewer's would like to believe. They're fact-lite and heavy on opinion; every party has 'em.

That being said I watch everything they put out on YouTube. Some of it's really good.

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Does anyone else deeply distrust Vox? The quality varies a LOT, they frequently present opinions as facts, etc. The weird thing is they have moments of brilliance like the "Liberal Smugness" piece - but search "Vox News article" and it looks like even the left really hates them. They seem more interested in telling me how to feel than the facts, I guess. I wish the rest of the world had the same pride in journalism a…

I'd argue that Vox is closer to MSM than it's viewer's would like to believe. They're fact-lite and heavy on opinion; every party has 'em. That being said I watch everything they put out on YouTube. Some of it's really good.

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Does anyone else deeply distrust Vox? The quality varies a LOT, they frequently present opinions as facts, etc. The weird thing is they have moments of brilliance like the "Liberal Smugness" piece - but search "Vox News article" and it looks like even the left really hates them. They seem more interested in telling me how to feel than the facts, I guess. I wish the rest of the world had the same pride in journalism a…

Vox and all its sibling outlets (Polygon, the Verge, etc.) have devolved into poison. They've surpassed Mother Jones as the Internet's premiere outraged bleeding liberal rag. Their headlines are physically painful to read. They are unabashed smug coastal liberalism.

Their videos are consistently high quality though. I'll go there probably once a month and watch a handful.

Re: Comcast-Owned Vox Runs Commercial for Comcast’s $500M Snapchat Investment

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the reasons people seem to have an aversion to Vox's format is that it's not meant to be like the rest of news journalism. When they first announced Vox, it was described as such: > Vox.com is news website that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. So, if you're accustomed to "the noise", I can understand why you might distrust Vox.

I wouldn't take the marketing-speak too seriously. Vox is no different than any other pageview-seeking news organization, all of which claim to cut through the noise. Most "news" these days is just content created to drive page views by discussing hot current events. Vox included.

Totally agree. I'm just pointing out that their self-stated motivation behind news coverage is why some people dislike their format.

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This makes no sense, while Vox might sometimes post video stories on their discover platform, it's not particularly common that they do when compared to other partners such as mashable or buzzfeed. Regardless, you see similar articles about Snap on websites that don't share any major investors with the company, so this argument doesn't really make sense.

If large stakeholders in Snap also had large stakes in all these media outlets praising the Snap IPO, would you say the same?

It's not really about what everyone else is reporting; it's the fact that no matter what the spin, they should disclose their ties to Snap's success so the reader is fully aware that this piece could come across as a back-scratch type of move on Vox's part.

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post #7

Does anyone else deeply distrust Vox? The quality varies a LOT, they frequently present opinions as facts, etc. The weird thing is they have moments of brilliance like the "Liberal Smugness" piece - but search "Vox News article" and it looks like even the left really hates them. They seem more interested in telling me how to feel than the facts, I guess. I wish the rest of the world had the same pride in journalism a…

One of the reasons people seem to have an aversion to Vox's format is that it's not meant to be like the rest of news journalism. When they first announced Vox, it was described as such: > Vox.com is news website that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. So, if you're accustomed to "the noise", I can understand why you might distrust Vox.

That's a great goal, and one which they don't actually pursue. For every great thing I've read on Vox, there seem to be 99 pieces of pure, unadulterated noise.

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I totally think that when a Vox Media publication writes about Comcast that they should disclose the fact that Comcast Ventures owns a minority stake in Vox Media. However, I think it's a bit ridiculous to expect them to disclose this every time they cover one of their investor's portfolio companies. According to Crunchbase [1], there are 1,124 companies that share at least one investor with Vox Media. That's a pretty large list for editors to keep track of. I'm not aware of any publication that provide disclosure statements when they cover one of their investor's portfolio companies.

[1] https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/vox-media/insights/i...

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On a slight tangent, anyone else really annoyed by the articles which seem to be "company profiles" but really are PR puff pieces. They masquered as real journalism but they feel like content spoon fed by the company's PR manager. They tend to be at publications like Fast company, Techcrunch, and business insider. Anyone have a way to filter out puff pieces? I have been thinking about building an algorithm since these pieces now filter into more reputable sources like WSJ and Nytimes too.
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