Earlier quoted context omitted.
And men should tend the land. It brings character to labor physically. These sissys who have no callouses don't know what real work is. Living in artificial, concrete cages, people have lost touch with reality! Oh wait, no. Tending the land is for women. Men should be out hunting. /parody
Laugh all you want. Your kind is being outbred.
Men not at work: Why so many men aged 25 to 54 are not working (2016)
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Re: Men not at work: Why so many men aged 25 to 54 are not working (2016)
#82The explanation is that the government massages unemployment figures to make the economy look better than it is. The government has been doing this for decades, under Republicans and Democrats, liberals and conservatives. Unemployment is one of the most widely watched and therefor political numbers; anyone who is in power wants it to look as good as possible. One of the tactics to make the official unemployment rates…
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#83"... or the wife works while the man take care of kids" Then wifey starts seeing hubby as a sexless entity --- sort of like the son she never gave birth to --- and loses attraction for him. "... it isn't a gender thing. It is a money thing" Humans spent millennia as hunter-gatherers. Men hunted, women gathered. Men protected and provided, women nurtured the children. If women provide and protection is provided by the…
Hey, if your wife sees you as a sexless entity, that sounds like something personal. Like maybe you need to find a way to be sexy for her. Turning that into a generalization about men being emasculated because women have careers now, man that's just not accurate. It's blaming women for something that's their fault or responsibility.
The problem is not women having careers, it is men having careers as babysitters and homemakers. Reading comprehension is not your forte, I presume.
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#84I've started some treatment recently, and for some reason I immediately started dating and looking for mates again. I quickly realized how difficult it is. You can't find women unless you have a job, while women have made outstanding progress in education and the workforce, and for some reason they have a hard time dating people who have a less comfortable situation than themselves. I don't want to ride the whole men…
You can't fight biology. Women are hardwired to look for men with resources or the ability to get them. It comes down to whether a man can provide the woman with a safe and clean place to have her babies. In the past, this signal has taken the form of physical strength, number of slaves, land, goats, whatever. Today, it's jobs and/or money. Then add a layer of the instinctive hunger for status within any social speci…
The snarky way to reply to this is, if you're so smart, why can't you get laid?
edit: are not confounded by. Also, if you're downvoting in response to something other than the useless snark at the end of my post, please comment.
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#86Re: Men not at work: Why so many men aged 25 to 54 are not working (2016)
#87I've started some treatment recently, and for some reason I immediately started dating and looking for mates again. I quickly realized how difficult it is. You can't find women unless you have a job, while women have made outstanding progress in education and the workforce, and for some reason they have a hard time dating people who have a less comfortable situation than themselves. I don't want to ride the whole men…
Yes, it's a skill that like any other, requires deliberate practice. The skill, however, is being a generally enjoyable person to be around.
#(If it seems like the last point contradicts the honesty, don't go around making sex your goal. Most humans are horny, it ain't anything you really need to draw attention to.)
edit: downvote with comments
e2: A known effect of attacking (without confronting the core of the problem), or suppressing, or dismissing parties expressing certain beliefs or engaging in particular behaviors is that the opposing party reaffirms their actions or beliefs. Two-way intelligent and earnest discussion makes both sides amenable to the reasonable positions of the other.
Re: Men not at work: Why so many men aged 25 to 54 are not working (2016)
#88"We will have to write off one to two entire generations". This from one industrial client who manages a workforce in the rural and suburban south. Why? The skills gap. Drug abuse, particularly meth. Competition from disability, welfare and black market income sources. I've heard similar from other clients. Their contempt for politicians stems largely from their perceptions that rural/middle America has been left to…
The truth is, we never were and never will be, and we have to be always vigilant about fighting it by working to provide opportunity and safety nets. I despise that the conversation is always framed in moral terms regarding whether those who need safety nets "deserve" them, when the question should really be about whether we're serious about winning the competition against non-productive income sources, state sponsored or otherwise. The conversation is perennially hijacked.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Besides, education has never been more accessible. One can sit down at their home computer – or one freely provided by a local library – and gain skills, across a variety of professions, that can make them highly marketable. These people aren't sitting at home watching TV because they lack education. They lack education for the same reason they are sitting at home, which is a much more complex topic, and not solved b…
I'd note, though, that most people can't really engage in self-directed study without structural motivations. After college, I think most people never read a textbook with such ferocity ever again. If you could just dump kids in front of Kahn Academy, life would be a lot easier.
I'll also add there's huge benefits to live collaboration and apprenticeship, namely the ability to solve roadblocks with the help of others at a pace that's likely to be faster than working alone.
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#90"We will have to write off one to two entire generations". This from one industrial client who manages a workforce in the rural and suburban south. Why? The skills gap. Drug abuse, particularly meth. Competition from disability, welfare and black market income sources. I've heard similar from other clients. Their contempt for politicians stems largely from their perceptions that rural/middle America has been left to…