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Obviously, HP Thinks We Are Stupid

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Re: Obviously, HP Thinks We Are Stupid

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Post by matwood »

hugh3 wrote: post #88
ajscherer wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fusion has 5 blades and Gillette didn't make a razor with 4. Also, in my experience the additional blades (or some other aspect of the newer Gillette razors) do make it easier to get a better shave. I was floored the first time I tried Mach 3 (which I remember getting for free in the mail) by how close the shave was for the amount of effort and irritation. Fusion has been a step up from Mach 3, but not nearly as big…

Fusion has six blades: five on the front and one on the back. I actually find the back blade "long-hair trimmer" to be really useful when I've forgotten to shave for a week. I also testify to the "more blades is better". I had never had a decent shave until I bought a Mach 3.

The mach3 is great. Other things I've noticed about cheap disposable razors is the blade spacing. When they put the blades too close together it's a PITA to rince the razor after each stroke. The Mach3 seems to be the perfect balance between the number of blades and the spacing.

Re: Obviously, HP Thinks We Are Stupid

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Post by matwood »

viraptor wrote: post #75
HeyLaughingBoy wrote: post #59

I see not a whole lot has changed! About 14 years ago I wrote the control software for a machine that used high performance inkjet heads and fast-drying ink. Inkjets were fairly new then and we went to a LOT of trouble (working directly with Canon) to get good print quality, and to keep the heads from clogging up with ink & paper dust while still making it easy for the user to replace ink cartridges. We even had to d…

> after that experience, I never trusted the reliability of inkjets To me, that happened with almost every technology I touched. The more I work with VoIP, the more amazed I am that it works at all with our networks. When I was doing web development, seeing some pages made me think about the crazy data flow they have to handle. etc. Sometimes, it's probably best not to know and just enjoy...

Look into the details of WIFI and/or cell technology sometime if you want to see something that's best not to know and just be glad it works ;)

Re: Obviously, HP Thinks We Are Stupid

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Post by oops »

tumult wrote: post #20
wheels wrote: post #2

One of the best investments that I made about 7 years ago was to buy a black and white laser printer for home: http://www.okidata.com/mkt/downloads/B4250_B4350Series.pdf I paid about €250 for it (which then was thousands of pages (I'd guesstimate 5000 pages), it still hasn't run out of its initial toner cartridge, and the prices I've seen for when it does are about €25. With printers, as with much in the electronics…

I have a Dell laser printer I bought off of woot.com for $99 years ago. Still on its initial toner cartridge. Still works 100% flawlessly. It plugs in via ethernet, uses zeroconf/Bonjour, and requires no drivers. I still can't believe what a ridiculously good deal it was. Like some other commenters here, if I need a color print, I just walk down the street and have a professional printer do it for one or two dollars…

For color inkjet printing, these systems can save you a lot of money (if you can get past the look of them):

http://www.rihac.com.au/ciss-systems-c-26.html

We have a couple in our co-working space.

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Post by Whippet »

mmagin wrote: post #70
artlogic wrote: post #62

The first major purchase I made on eBay was a HP LaserJet 5P purchased in 2000 for $200. I still use that printer today, I think I've replaced the toner cartridge 3 times in the last 10 years. At $75/cartridge, it's been a bargain. On top of that, I purchased memory upgrades, the postscript SIM, and a used JetDirect external box for around $50. Now I have a network printer that doesn't even need drivers to work. On t…

I bought a LaserJet 6MP on ebay about 5 years ago and upgraded the memory to the maximum. It's served me well since for general text printing.

I bought a LaserJet 4P when it was new for about $1,000

I know it seems like a lot, but like many of HP's products back then, it is bullet proof. Sure it's not very fast, but it prints text well and I replace the toner cartridge every 2 to 3 years.

I've had friends and family go through several printers in a row due to cheaper built quality. When we returned one (a HP inkjet, iirc) to the store, I asked if they send them back to the manufacturer. I was told it was not cost effective to do. They threw it away and gave us a new one.

If I do ever decide to buy a color printer, I think I'd go with Canon as some of my more technical friends have had good experience with them and Canon is not so anally retentive about 3rd party ink.

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Post by bjhacker »

ashbrahma wrote: post #25

Personally, I am looking forward to the Memjet printers. Video Demo of Memjet vs HP Inkjet. http://www.memjethomeandoffice.com/technology/video_view/mem... Memjet was founded by Kia Silverbrook, one of the leading inventors/patent filers in the world now.

Their partners have (within the last month) introduced a handful of products for commercial uses. I think the consumer/small office product is on the way.

Re: Obviously, HP Thinks We Are Stupid

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Post by whimsy »

sandGorgon wrote: post #94

Any recommendations about what is a good printer to buy TODAY ? -monochrome laser -zeroconf -separate print head -long lasting toner

There are a lot of good recommendations in the other comments, even though no one has responded directly to you - I recommend taking another look at this comments page if you haven't already.

Re: Obviously, HP Thinks We Are Stupid

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Post by truebosko »

wheels wrote: post #2

One of the best investments that I made about 7 years ago was to buy a black and white laser printer for home: http://www.okidata.com/mkt/downloads/B4250_B4350Series.pdf I paid about €250 for it (which then was thousands of pages (I'd guesstimate 5000 pages), it still hasn't run out of its initial toner cartridge, and the prices I've seen for when it does are about €25. With printers, as with much in the electronics…

We use a Brother HL-5370DW at work and the first high yield cartridge didn't run out until about 10,000 pages. We do a LOT of printing and it was pretty impressive. The printer was around $250 and a high yield cartridge is about $130.

Although we did have to put tape on the sides so the printer would stop complaining. It ran on that "empty" cartridge for another 2 months ;-)

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Post by dhimes »

wendroid wrote: post #47
dhimes wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does the continuous system work ok? I have one for an epson, and when I run out of ink I intend to install it. I'm also preparing to buy an emergency backup printer, just in case...

The only problem I had was the usual - leave it for 6 weeks without printing and it gums up a bit. I've also had some feed problems where it dumps ink into the printer. The guys I share an office with got one and didn't read the instructions properly and we stood their (me laughing) as the ink unloaded into the thing. But when it's all working you get 6+ months of reliable printing. And for the price of an inkjet, a…

Nice- that's pretty much how I was hoping it would work.
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