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PayPal Redirects Charitable Contributions Without Consent, Lawsuit Says

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Re: PayPal Redirects Charitable Contributions Without Consent, Lawsuit Says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe companies should be "imprisoned" as well for things like this. Obviously you can't actually put them in prison, but you could force them to cease operations for a period of time, which is effectively what you do to a person when you imprison them.

Unfortunately, this also hurts the employees of the company, most of whom had no connection to the criminal act. I'd rather hold the decision-makers who perpetrated the crime personally responsible.

That's no different from imprisoning individuals, where their family or anyone else who depends on them gets hurt. If you depend on a criminal then you'll suffer when they're punished.

Re: PayPal Redirects Charitable Contributions Without Consent, Lawsuit Says

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PayPal is a nightmarish company. I've lost ~3000 USD to PayPal when I was doing small business back in early 2000s. Their "buyer first" policy had screwed us big time, even though we have provided all the documentation to contest the bogus claims. PayPal froze our money, and terrorized me for a whole year with collections agencies. It was awful. I am out of 3K dollars, and I have stopped using PayPal since.

Same here, about $2,000 they claim I owe them because they stupidly decided to refund money to an obvious scammer. Luckily I had already withdrawn the money. This happened when I was 15 and since then I am banned for life from Paypal - every time I tried opening up a new account they would eventually ban me. However during the last 15 years I have started multiple successful businesses and used alternatives like Stri…

At 15 you aren't allowed to have an account with PayPal and were technically defrauding them with a false birthday to get in. It isn't much of a stretch for them to ban you for that alone. Even if you were emancipated, it would be nearly impossible to prove that to a web business with no allowances for unusual circumstances.

Re: PayPal Redirects Charitable Contributions Without Consent, Lawsuit Says

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post #63
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It looks like that the Humble Bundle is also affected by this. On their webpage, it says "Charitable contributions administered by PayPal Giving Fund" and "PayPal Giving Fund retains ultimate discretion and control over the use of the donations it receives from Humble Bundle." Is there a way to know which charities are registered with Paypal?

Humble Bundle co-founder here. This does not apply to us. The lawsuit refers to a feature PayPal Giving Fund launched a few months ago on their own website, to let people pay charities that are not yet registered. On our side, for charities that are paid via PayPal Giving Fund, we require them to be fully onboarded. For our "choose your own charity" feature, which lets you customize which charity you are supporting,…

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense! :)

Re: PayPal Redirects Charitable Contributions Without Consent, Lawsuit Says

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post #70

So my parents run a non-profit and a recently letter we got from Amazon Smile explains what is happening here. Amazon Smile is a service were you can choose a charity for Amazon to donate to. When you shop at Amazon, a small percentage of that money goes to the selected charity. Recently they got a letter in the mail explaining they had been chosen as recipients of this Amazon Smile money. The thing is, they never ch…

Dammit. I've been using Amazon Smile to donate to a small non-profit. It's obscure enough that I was surprised to find it listed as an option, but given that it was there, I just assumed that they would get the money set aside for them. Is Amazon doing the same thing (withholding donations from charities that don't register for their service)? Is there any way to check?

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Re: PayPal Redirects Charitable Contributions Without Consent, Lawsuit Says

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So my parents run a non-profit and a recently letter we got from Amazon Smile explains what is happening here. Amazon Smile is a service were you can choose a charity for Amazon to donate to. When you shop at Amazon, a small percentage of that money goes to the selected charity. Recently they got a letter in the mail explaining they had been chosen as recipients of this Amazon Smile money. The thing is, they never ch…

Which non-profit? I'd love to hear more about how Amazon Smile works from the charitable organization's side.

They just instruct some classes for engaged couples. Nothing that interesting.

https://org.amazon.com will probably be of interest to you.

Re: PayPal Redirects Charitable Contributions Without Consent, Lawsuit Says

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post #70

So my parents run a non-profit and a recently letter we got from Amazon Smile explains what is happening here. Amazon Smile is a service were you can choose a charity for Amazon to donate to. When you shop at Amazon, a small percentage of that money goes to the selected charity. Recently they got a letter in the mail explaining they had been chosen as recipients of this Amazon Smile money. The thing is, they never ch…

Dammit. I've been using Amazon Smile to donate to a small non-profit. It's obscure enough that I was surprised to find it listed as an option, but given that it was there, I just assumed that they would get the money set aside for them. Is Amazon doing the same thing (withholding donations from charities that don't register for their service)? Is there any way to check?

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Re: PayPal Redirects Charitable Contributions Without Consent, Lawsuit Says

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post #70

So my parents run a non-profit and a recently letter we got from Amazon Smile explains what is happening here. Amazon Smile is a service were you can choose a charity for Amazon to donate to. When you shop at Amazon, a small percentage of that money goes to the selected charity. Recently they got a letter in the mail explaining they had been chosen as recipients of this Amazon Smile money. The thing is, they never ch…

Dammit. I've been using Amazon Smile to donate to a small non-profit. It's obscure enough that I was surprised to find it listed as an option, but given that it was there, I just assumed that they would get the money set aside for them. Is Amazon doing the same thing (withholding donations from charities that don't register for their service)? Is there any way to check?

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Re: PayPal Redirects Charitable Contributions Without Consent, Lawsuit Says

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post #69

So my parents run a non-profit and a recently letter we got from Amazon Smile explains what is happening here. Amazon Smile is a service were you can choose a charity for Amazon to donate to. When you shop at Amazon, a small percentage of that money goes to the selected charity. Recently they got a letter in the mail explaining they had been chosen as recipients of this Amazon Smile money. The thing is, they never ch…

Wow. That just sounds arrogant on the parts of Amazon and PayPal.

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Re: PayPal Redirects Charitable Contributions Without Consent, Lawsuit Says

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post #70

So my parents run a non-profit and a recently letter we got from Amazon Smile explains what is happening here. Amazon Smile is a service were you can choose a charity for Amazon to donate to. When you shop at Amazon, a small percentage of that money goes to the selected charity. Recently they got a letter in the mail explaining they had been chosen as recipients of this Amazon Smile money. The thing is, they never ch…

Dammit. I've been using Amazon Smile to donate to a small non-profit. It's obscure enough that I was surprised to find it listed as an option, but given that it was there, I just assumed that they would get the money set aside for them. Is Amazon doing the same thing (withholding donations from charities that don't register for their service)? Is there any way to check?

"If you do not register your charitable organization, including providing accurate bank account information for an electronic transfer, the AmazonSmile Foundation will still track and store donations earned in each calendar quarter. Once you’ve registered your charitable organization, your organization will be eligible to receive in the next donation cycle all donation amounts that were previously allocated to your organization and were not subject to reallocation under the Participation Agreement."

but

"Please note that donations that have been allocated to an unregistered charitable organization from customers that made their first supporting purchase more than eight full quarters ago and have not been distributed will be reallocated to other registered charitable organizations."

Re: PayPal Redirects Charitable Contributions Without Consent, Lawsuit Says

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The good'ol cash or physical check will always work. Don't believe so called the 'new money': you lose all control of your own money and at someone else's mercy.

I doubt anything physical would work if you are on different continent.

Then using a credit card will be the best bet as you can file charge-back.
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