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Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by AlphaSite »

Razengan wrote: post #201
johnatwork wrote: post #87

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I'm glad I read this. I was thinking of perhaps switching out of Apple for Razor, since the last MacBook Pro update.

I was initially going to skip the 2016 MacBook Pro myself, mostly because of their price, but I got one recently and it's actually a very solid and I would even say amazing machine. The need for dongles/adapters can be overlooked as a transitionary pain.

Honestly, the only real use I have for dongles is USB hard drives and displays, but for that case I can just get usb-c to usb-micro-3 cable and a usb-c to DisplayPort cable and I'm back into the same situation as before.

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Post by AlphaSite »

mschuster91 wrote: post #204
heipei wrote: post #186

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Yes, noise and battery runtime are the only two things keeping me with a MacBook. I'd be willing to compromise on other things (resolution, CPU, aesthetics), but there is still no alternative. But currently still happy with my 2015 MBP Retina. That's the thing that people don't understand if they've never owned a MacBook. Build quality and noise are not in the specs, so they only compare it on price / power. Also som…

The biggest problem I have with Apple is that they've completely lost track when it comes to their core user group. A modern MBP still can't have more than 16GB RAM, it has 0 legacy ports, and cannot be upgraded at all. Yes it might be a perfect laptop for hipsters who just want to show off their MBP and do the occasional Photoshop, but without developers who create programs for OS X or professional users who make th…

How many developers actually need >16gb for normal work? They exist for sure, but I would posit that its only some vanishingly small portion in practice.

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by mschuster91 »

AlphaSite wrote: post #222
mschuster91 wrote: post #204

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The biggest problem I have with Apple is that they've completely lost track when it comes to their core user group. A modern MBP still can't have more than 16GB RAM, it has 0 legacy ports, and cannot be upgraded at all. Yes it might be a perfect laptop for hipsters who just want to show off their MBP and do the occasional Photoshop, but without developers who create programs for OS X or professional users who make th…

How many developers actually need >16gb for normal work? They exist for sure, but I would posit that its only some vanishingly small portion in practice.

For example when you work with dockerized enterprise CMSes on a Mac - you'll need 8GB RAM at minimum for the Docker VM, 4+GB for your browser, 4GB for the IDE (although IntelliJ can eat even more RAM easily!) and suddenly there is no more RAM.

Basically, you can easily use 32+ GB of RAM as soon as anything Java is involved. For what it's worth I usually don't do Java stuff but my Chrome RAM usage alone easily exceeds 8 GB. I could really use more than 16 GB.

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Post by AstralStorm »

thoughtpalette wrote: post #107
IshKebab wrote: post #32

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Yeah or please don't.

I definitely do not think adding an archaic input to a gaming focused laptop is a killer feature, nor should it be configurable, at least on this brand.

Hey, the pointing stick is an excellent input device. They are used in joysticks and gamepads all the time - hat switch and analog controller are essentially the same thing with slightly different implementation.

It works much better for many kinds of games actually than a touchpad. Heck, I'd take two or four of these in a gaming laptop, you'd essentially have a gamepad included with a real keyboard.

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Post by Oletros »

danjoc wrote: post #218
lazyloop wrote: post #76

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This is false. On apple.de you can currently order 9 different keyboard layouts, including US.

Two differences are 1) you accessed that site in the US(?) and 2) GP said businesses, which indicates a business portal rather than the consumer store. I wouldn't be so quick to call GP a liar. If you haven't encountered it, trying to do things online in another country is an eye opening experience. For example, indeed.com wouldn't even let me go to US job listings when I was in Hong Kong. Products, pricing, everythi…

In Spain, you don't have problems configuring an Apple computer with US keyboard since since a lot of years ago

Right now I'm configuring a MB Pro in Apple.de with US keyboard

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Post by AstralStorm »

hicolour wrote: post #83

Fix this enormous basel and ad support for 32GB memory and there will be no competition ...

It is either bezel or thickness if you want proper cooling in a small laptop - only 17" ones are likely to get away without either.

Or you can stick with low power cool hardware but that defeats the point of the gaming laptop.

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Post by AstralStorm »

ythn wrote: post #66

Anyone else own a Razer mechanical keyboard that doesn't work in GRUB/BIOS menus? I have a Black Widow Stealth and it works great... except not in BIOS menus or GRUB menus. In those cases I have to plug in my old keyboard to get a response.

You may need to enable legacy USB support in firmware and hope it works with your machine or mainboard.

Other than that, some of the advanced devices initialize too slow and firmware is not waiting on them long enough.

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Post by blockoperation »

greenhatman wrote: post #58
enknamel wrote: post #52

I really like someone stepping up and making a high quality linux laptop. After the thread yesterday about System76 (who I thought was doing that) this makes me really happy. It's also somewhat a threat to Apple. If you aren't doing any iOS development you will now get a really nice alternative to a Macbook Pro.

Aren't Dell doing this well already with their XPS series?

I haven't tried an XPS, but the Precision 7xxx stuff definitely qualifies. My 7510 came with Ubuntu, and the experience was just as polished as any Windows machine (better in some ways, as they had configured their way around some Skylake-specific issues that still affected Windows at the time).

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Post by Hydraulix989 »

sqldba wrote: post #196
Hydraulix989 wrote: post #187

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I switched to a Lenovo P50 for this very reason (the one I have comes with a 4K display, an eight-thread Xeon processor, 64 GB of RAM, and an NVIDIA Quadro M2000M with plenty of horsepower). The cooling systems on the Razer laptops are woefully inadequate for what they are supposed to handle. The P50 is a bit heftier than the Razer, but it's built like a tank, and it has an awesome copper heatsink + dual cooling fan…

I'd love a laptop like that but all of Lenovo's spyware scandals and backdoors have made me wary. Also their trackpad doesn't look anywhere near as fancy as a Dell 9560, which I just spec'd to half the price with double the SSD (though which maxes out at 32GB).

There aren't any backdoors. Also, you don't use the trackpad on a Lenovo, you use the trackpoint.

Those DELLs have terrible keyboards (as a programmer, I spend most of my time typing in vim using i3 WM), and they aren't built to last.

If you have qualms about the pricing of Lenovos, its pretty easy to dig up corporate discount codes on /r/thinkpad or you can use a .edu email address if you still have one to get a student discount long after graduating. Usually that gets you anywhere from 25-40% off depending on the promotions.

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Post by patates »

stupidcar wrote: post #197
poink wrote: post #111

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Even Razer's mice are pretty shit quality. I've had them going back to the original Boomslang, and I don't think I've ever had one last more than two years. I just like their ergonomics and features -- and the fact that Razer is good about replacing them when they break quickly, which they often do -- enough to put up with it. I'm probably harder on input devices than most people, but I have working Logitech and Micr…

I use a Razer mouse at work, and it's still going strong after five years of heavy usage. So, like anything, YMMV. To be honest, even if they only ever lasted a couple of years, I'd still buy Razer mice. All non-gaming mice nowadays seem to be awful, cheap crap, and most gaming mice are over-decorated contraptions. Razer mice seem to be the only one they combine good, simple ergonomics with high precision and a quali…

Try Roccat. They're amazing.
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