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White House proposes steep budget cut to NOAA
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Re: White House proposes steep budget cut to NOAA
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
A does talk to others. It still hasn't worked, and now B is trying really hard to make A stop telling everybody about this stuff.
So A has to get rid of B, or make them irrelevant.
How? B has all the power. It's easy to say "get rid of them" but how do you actually do it?
Re: White House proposes steep budget cut to NOAA
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you "know" the message is wrong but the messenger won't shut up about it, these things start to sound like a good idea.
When on Earth did anti science trolls take such a prominent role in HN? It's not hard for me to imagine a misinformation campaign run against HN, because I can't really understand how someone technical could countenance anti climate change ideas.
You can come up with reasons to justify anything, once you're motivated by ideology. Being "more technical" sadly really only means that the justifications you come up with are more technical-sounding.
Re: White House proposes steep budget cut to NOAA
#84Hey, he's just following through on campaign promises. How can you fault him on that? In a decade or two, this will probably be laughable. But if he cuts back on foreign intervention, I'm happy to cut him lots of slack.
If he cuts back on foreign intervention, this extraordinary emphasis on "rebuilding" our military (whatever that means given the relative size of our military) makes even less sense.
If you're hanging your hat on the idea that he'll be less interventionist, I'd ask you to consider the evidence mounting to the contrary.
Re: White House proposes steep budget cut to NOAA
#85Just playing devil's advocate can someone articulate what kind of value we will lose as a society?
I was talking to someone who worked as an engineer for NASA for decades. He said the work he was proudest of was on the GOES satellites, because they save lives every year by providing data on extreme weather. It looks like weather satellite operations are going to be hardest hit by these cuts.
Yep, these satellites are very important to weather forcasting. The GOES-R (now GOES-16) satellite launched recently, here are a couple of videos taken by it over the last few days:
https://twitter.com/wxlada/status/837417069423513601 https://twitter.com/wxbrad/status/837508892611465216
and a full disk picture: https://twitter.com/NOAASatellites/status/835240421647347713
Re: White House proposes steep budget cut to NOAA
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not. Defense comes in at 15% of federal spending. Social security and medicare combined come in at 4x that amount. Source: http://federal-budget.insidegov.com/l/120/2017-Estimate
Those are non discretionary and funded by totally separate channels.
And?
Mandatory spending is more than twice that of discretionary. Of discretionary, defense makes up less than 50%.
Re: White House proposes steep budget cut to NOAA
#87Hey, he's just following through on campaign promises. How can you fault him on that? In a decade or two, this will probably be laughable. But if he cuts back on foreign intervention, I'm happy to cut him lots of slack.
If he cuts back on foreign intervention, this extraordinary emphasis on "rebuilding" our military (whatever that means given the relative size of our military) makes even less sense. If you're hanging your hat on the idea that he'll be less interventionist, I'd ask you to consider the evidence mounting to the contrary.
Damn, if he doesn't trigger WWIII, I'll be happy.
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#88WTF is wrong with this administration and data? Honestly.
The normal course of things the US went through since the seventies. The US is all in all an insane country with tons of nukes.
Let's hope he stops at just destroying the US alone and not start a World War.
Re: White House proposes steep budget cut to NOAA
#89http://weather.gov (run by NOAA and the national weather service) is my go to weather site. No ads, no hyperbole. I found out about it when some senator wanted to stop them from posting weather online because it competed with "private sector" weather companies. A couple times I've seen that tv news weather leaves the site up on their monitors during newscasts.
NOAA is also the only source for river flood predictions:
https://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=rev&gage=...
https://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=fgf&gage=...
Re: White House proposes steep budget cut to NOAA
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
The military is 60 percent of the budget.
It's not. Defense comes in at 15% of federal spending. Social security and medicare combined come in at 4x that amount. Source: http://federal-budget.insidegov.com/l/120/2017-Estimate
Lumping social security in with taxes? You must be very good with numbers.