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Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by bruce_one »

mathnode wrote: post #36

I am one of many disgruntled Razer Blade Stealth and razer core owners, currently awaiting a refund. Some customers are on as many as their 4th or 5th replacement unit. They have no English support in the UK, just a couple of german phone numbers which nobody seems to answer. The forum is terrible and they can't translate emails correctly. It's insulting. The typical issues are usually related to firmware, which myse…

Apple prices?

At least in Australia, they're way cheaper than Apple.

Was looking recently and prices went:

Razer Blade Stealth < XPS 13 < Apple

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by scurvy »

I'll just put it this way: BIOS updates require purchasing a Razer Core or RMA'ing your entire laptop. Not a lie. Not an exaggeration. It's the truth for Blade and Blade Stealth owners.

The experience is borderline terribad. I got things (mostly) working with Linux Mint, but:

1) Runtime is maybe 2 hours. 2) It won't sleep when you close the lid (I have sleep hotkeyed instead) 3) The USB support is loltastic 4) External HDMI connector worked for a week then quit 5) Takes 3 hours to fully charge the battery

I could go on but it's Friday. I had really high hopes for this laptop and was ultimately let down by Razer. They should stick to making their peripherals work with Linux, then they can put on their bigboy pants and try to make an entire system.

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by rpdillon »

kobeya wrote: post #39
jolux wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know some people love them but compared to the massive glass trackpad with multitouch that I have on my MacBook I don't understand the appeal. Is it a portability thing?

It's a not-having-to-move-your-fingers-from-home-row thing. It is extremely important for people like me that suffer from repetitive strain disorders, if we want to keep maximum productivity.

Precisely my experience. RSI changed everything, and I find it hard to explain to those that have never experienced it.

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Post by scurvy »

enknamel wrote: post #52

I really like someone stepping up and making a high quality linux laptop. After the thread yesterday about System76 (who I thought was doing that) this makes me really happy. It's also somewhat a threat to Apple. If you aren't doing any iOS development you will now get a really nice alternative to a Macbook Pro.

Dell is much closer to this than Razer. Razer hasn't stepped up yet. To quote Tyler Durden, "Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken."

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by danjoc »

pbz wrote: post #151

If they're reading this, here's my wishlist: 1) 15.6 inch laptop (14 is too small, especially with those bezels). 2) As thin of a bezel as possible (see XPS) 3) Camera on top! I don't want to show my fingers in conference calls. This may force the bezels to be larger on top, that's fine. (Pop-out camera?) 4) Offer the highest quality display from a color reproduction point of view, not the refresh rate. This is NOT a…

They're more likely to be reading over at insider.razerzone.com, but I'd say they're probably most interested in hearing about compatibility issues rather than product design choices. Razer will still be Razer, but if you can suggest more Linux friendly components, their ears are open.

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by danjoc »

rpdillon wrote: post #164

This is confusing. It looks like they opened up a forum for users to discuss Linux support on their machines. Have they done anything at all beyond that?

The CEO said, hey, I want my laptops to run Linux flawlessly. Let's work on making that happen together. Here's a forum. Let's get some feedback on what we can do to better support Linux in future hardware.

This is a company that makes prototype laptops with three displays :D The dude will sink time and money into this if that's what he wants.

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by mschuster91 »

TheOsiris wrote: post #160
johnatwork wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad I read this. I was thinking of perhaps switching out of Apple for Razor, since the last MacBook Pro update.

same here. the macs are under powered and overpriced but razer's quality is not high enough imo. I had to return my razer blade because of the constant fan noise even on idle. I just can't even take it to meetings or work in quiet rooms

Then again, I have yet to witness any laptop that is as quiet as a MBP. Every Windows laptop I've encountered, no matter if at university, at work or at home, had its fans spinning even at idle - while it takes a 2015 MBP to do a full recompile of all Macports packages to noticeably heat up, much less engage the fans.

It's a side effect of both Apples unibody aluminium cases which are way better at heat dissipation than any plastic based case and Apples extreme level of control - they can optimize every tiny chip as well as the OS to be as power efficient as humanly possible, which avoids creating heat to dissipate.

It's fair game to compare Windows laptops for their noise level but seriously, comparing anything with Apple for noise is unfair.

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by nas »

greenhatman wrote: post #58
enknamel wrote: post #52

I really like someone stepping up and making a high quality linux laptop. After the thread yesterday about System76 (who I thought was doing that) this makes me really happy. It's also somewhat a threat to Apple. If you aren't doing any iOS development you will now get a really nice alternative to a Macbook Pro.

Aren't Dell doing this well already with their XPS series?

Really not impressed with my XPS 13. The screen automatically changes brightness depending what is shown on it (dynamic brightness). The touchpad works really poorly, detects palm touches as clicks all the time. Nearly impossible for me to type without clicks. Messing with settings reduced palm clicks but made the pad unresponsive to clicks from my finger.

Had lockups until I upgraded kernel and flashed now BIOS. Audio had really loud hissing until I opened alsamixer and set controls to exactly the right values (got of a wiki page). To be fair, the audio is noisy on Windows 10 too.

My old Lenovo X200 works nearly flawless on Linux. Again, pretty disappointed with Dell.

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