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Re: Chevrolet to offer unlimited data plan with cars

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Obigatory: https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/01/15/polic... The TLAs use things like OnStar to spy on people.

The TLAs use things like cell phones to spy on people. //disclaimer: I work for GM, but not in this area.

With OnStar they contacted GM and got their cooperation. With your cell phone it seems they bypass the carrier.

Re: Chevrolet to offer unlimited data plan with cars

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Sorry but I don't need a $20 monthly bill on top of my cell bell and everything else. I am curious if this is addition to Onstar costs beyond the first three months? That can be 19.95 on its own (Safe and Sound).

Just make it simple to let my car use my phone's data connection. Volt support Apple Carplay and Android Auto so that shouldn't be all that difficult.

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Yeah, I can see that, but GM and Tesla are so different in size that the comparison is a bit problematic. RIM knew who their market was, and frankly should have been fine if there hadn't been a hype panic. Heck, their top market cap was a year after the iPhone. I cannot help but think of a world where there was an actual "consumer" Blackberry device. I think the Bold form factor with the Passport keyboard UI and adva…

> Yeah, I can see that, but GM and Tesla are so different in size that the comparison is a bit problematic. Sure, that's why I said the truth was in the ideas, not the statement itself. :) > Heck, their top market cap was a year after the iPhone. Sure, Apple added exchange support in early-to-mid 2008[1]. Add to that incomplete coverage of features initially, and the fact that Enterprises don't move as quickly as con…

They flopped around trying to bolt touch features into their shitty legacy OS.

Then they rolled out a really good OS (bought QNX) but it took too long and delivered too late. By most reviews it was a quality product, but 3 years too late.

They should have bought Palm in 2010 when it was up for sale and built on their existing product.

But they bought QNX that year instead, and released their mediocre tablet a bit year later. Anybody who saw how flubbed that was could see the writing on the wall.

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I'm not sure what point this find/replace is supposed to be making. That seems like a pretty accurate assessment of how Blackberry could have beaten Apple and why they didn't. Well, except it also needs a find/replace on "security" to something else like "UI."

The point is GM won't beat Tesla, for similar reasons to why BB and Nokia didn't beat Apple, despite having a number of advantages.

GM is already "beating" Tesla by shipping an actual high quality regular-consumer EV product this year right now that is getting stellar reviews.

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The Mazda infotainment system can similarly be updated via a USB stick. In the Mazda case, it's JavaScript code running in Opera on top of Linux. The code is written by Johnson Controls. Enterprising hackers (of the good sort) have made available a variety of customizations.

Do you know a good place to learn more about this? I'd love to see what might be available for my Mazda.

http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2014-2017-mazda-3-skyacti...

Over 6000 posts. Have fun. :-)

Someone put together an app which allows you to select the hacks you want, then generates a few scripts that you write to a USB drive. You then put that in the car and turn it on, and it patches the system:

http://mazdatweaks.com

You can brick the system, so be careful. I haven't touched my system yet, and I wouldn't do so w/o understanding exactly what each of these hacks do.

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I tried pulling the OnStar fuse from the fuse box and the only change I noticed was that the in-car microphone stopped working! Makes one wonder just how ingrained OnStar tech is in these vehicles.

You guys might appreciate this little how to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0dvLuWna9Q

Yeah, I've seen that, thanks. I think the location is different on the gen2.

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WOW! I was also an early adopter of Gmail and have a six-letter gmail address as well that I got all sorts of emails that were from other people (but with the same name as mine). In inspecting the raw email content, the "To:" field is correctly spelled with my gmail address but the email content have been nothing to do with me: someone else's group invite, account registration that was clearly not me, flight confirma…

Yes. Heaven help you if you have an extremely common firstname.lastname combination where there are multiple spellings of the first name. Once you're in someone's address book, it's nearly impossible to get them to delete you if they're not tech-savvy. So every time someone intends to email Jon.Smith@gmail.com they send it to John.Smith instead. There are companies that have been emailing me contracts for years now.…

Those legal disclaimers in the email footers are not binding.

(I am not a lawyer.)

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Do you know a good place to learn more about this? I'd love to see what might be available for my Mazda.

http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2014-2017-mazda-3-skyacti... Over 6000 posts. Have fun. :-) Someone put together an app which allows you to select the hacks you want, then generates a few scripts that you write to a USB drive. You then put that in the car and turn it on, and it patches the system: http://mazdatweaks.com You can brick the system, so be careful. I haven't touched my system yet, and I wouldn't do so…

Awesome, looks like a lot of fun reading to be had. Thanks!

Re: Chevrolet to offer unlimited data plan with cars

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I recently picked up a Volt which includes this OnStar 4G setup and have to say I'm extremely concerned at how quickly this "my car is on the internet" feature set is spreading. Everything is managed by OnStar through their device that's factory installed into every new Chevy vehicle. They have had security breaches and had to fix white-hat reported vulnerabilities in the past[1]. This system isn't just "4G wifi as a…

You are probably vulnerable even if you don't subscribe too... There needs to be an "airplane mode" that completely disables wireless communications...

Re: Chevrolet to offer unlimited data plan with cars

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Oh brother, I know your pain. I too have a 6 character gmail address because I signed up in 2004 when it was in beta and I too get email for all sorts of people (both accidentally and because people just give out my email address as a fake when they sign up for something stupid). It can be fun too though, like when someone signs up for a dating site with your email and you can login to what is effectively your accoun…

WOW! I was also an early adopter of Gmail and have a six-letter gmail address as well that I got all sorts of emails that were from other people (but with the same name as mine). In inspecting the raw email content, the "To:" field is correctly spelled with my gmail address but the email content have been nothing to do with me: someone else's group invite, account registration that was clearly not me, flight confirma…

yep, I also have a 6 letter gmail address and I get a ton of stuff. It's a nightmare. I have utility bills, at some point I was on a mailing list for some real estate company, I even got people complaining to me about their broken A/C units. Several cable accounts with multiple providers in multiple US states are registered on my account and there is nothing I can do about it because the companies don't give a damn or the support people received the worst training.

Sometimes it's funny because people send me Mails trying to recover their account but I tell them to speak to the companies because I have no way of verification that I'm actually turning over something to the right party, so I don't do it.

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