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Re: Chevrolet to offer unlimited data plan with cars

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Especially since the GPS signal has the time in it... likely it is to avoid issues with people claiming it is running fast/slow, or changing timezones.

Only the GPS time value has never had any leap seconds applied to it. So it's almost 20 seconds ahead of UTC. Which is probably "good enough" for a clock in a car.

GPS includes the offset between GPS time and UTC so that receivers can convert to UTC if they want to.

This offset is limited to 255 seconds though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System#Leap...

Re: Chevrolet to offer unlimited data plan with cars

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I recently picked up a Volt which includes this OnStar 4G setup and have to say I'm extremely concerned at how quickly this "my car is on the internet" feature set is spreading. Everything is managed by OnStar through their device that's factory installed into every new Chevy vehicle. They have had security breaches and had to fix white-hat reported vulnerabilities in the past[1]. This system isn't just "4G wifi as a…

I've posted this before, but it's relevant so I'll post it again. Not sure if this has changed since I last posted, but it's a hell of a warning sign on how they practice: So, I'm an Australian. We don't have OnStar but I've heard about it via the net. I keep getting emails for 2 different people's OnStar accounts to my Email address... and OnStar won't do anything about it. I have a pretty short Gmail address becaus…

Oh brother, I know your pain. I too have a 6 character gmail address because I signed up in 2004 when it was in beta and I too get email for all sorts of people (both accidentally and because people just give out my email address as a fake when they sign up for something stupid).

It can be fun too though, like when someone signs up for a dating site with your email and you can login to what is effectively your account.

I had the same problem as you with a large bank... kept getting emails with someone else's balance in them. I kept responding and trying to get the bank's attention, but nothing. Eventually I tweeted at them publicly with a description of the problem and that got them to clear it up pretty quickly. ;)

Re: Chevrolet to offer unlimited data plan with cars

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Here's how Blackberry could beat Apple, along with why it won't happen. Blackberry could just take a look at what Apple is doing, and do all of the same things, then do certain key things better. From a sheer resources and capability standpoint, Blackberry could beat the pants off of Apple. I think Apple is counting on: 1) Blackberry and other big phone makers being too set in their ways and 2) GM and other big phone…

I'm not sure what point this find/replace is supposed to be making. That seems like a pretty accurate assessment of how Blackberry could have beaten Apple and why they didn't. Well, except it also needs a find/replace on "security" to something else like "UI."

I'm not sure what Apple has to do with it exactly, but I thought he was talking about the fact that BlackBerry owns QNX and is marketing it as a vehicle software platform.

Re: Chevrolet to offer unlimited data plan with cars

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Do their cars come with decent in-car entertainment that can actually use the Internet? When I got my new 2016 Honda Accord I was looking forward to some good streaming music in the car. I read that the built-in stereo comes with Pandora. I also knew that the built-in stereo can also access the Internet. "Cool," I thought. "I can fire up the hotspot on my phone, connect the car to the Internet, then the Pandora will…

I have the same car, as well as a Pixel phone, and I'm really pleased with streaming radio apps on Android Auto. The voice controls work for Spotify and not just Google Music. To control music I'm generally using voice control or the steering wheel stereo controls. CarPlay really seems to suck for any audio app that isn't Apple Music. It does seem to work _great_ for Apple Music, so if that's your preferred music app…

Apple Music does work moderately well with CarPlay, but mostly with the voice interface. The problem with the voice interface is that there is a huge lag, and it is erratic. Sometimes I will say something like "play jazz radio" and it responds there is no jazz station; later, it works. The strange thing is that it seemed to recognize the command, as it repeats back "I can't find station jazz."

The only hope for it is the voice interface. The touchscreen interface is horrible, because there are no hardware buttons...which may be Honda's fault, as they stripped off all buttons except those on the steering wheel.

I wouldn't be surprised if Android Auto works better, as Apple's voice control has generally been bad. Also Google Maps still beats Apple, and I can't get Google Maps on Carplay.

Re: Chevrolet to offer unlimited data plan with cars

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Also a new Volt owner, and I plan to detach the antenna from the OnStar unit in mine. You can't disable it entirely or the car gets angry.

I tried pulling the OnStar fuse from the fuse box and the only change I noticed was that the in-car microphone stopped working! Makes one wonder just how ingrained OnStar tech is in these vehicles.

You guys might appreciate this little how to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0dvLuWna9Q

Re: Chevrolet to offer unlimited data plan with cars

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I don't get it, though. The article makes it seem like the primary use case is to connect your phones to the car via WiFi, so they can all use the car's 4g connection. But don't most people that can afford this already have unlimited (or close to it) data direct from the phone? Or is the data connection used by the car in some other way?

It's not for the owner as much as it's for their kids. That said, it can be used by the owner for internet radio embedded in the head unit.

Re: Chevrolet to offer unlimited data plan with cars

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I've posted this before, but it's relevant so I'll post it again. Not sure if this has changed since I last posted, but it's a hell of a warning sign on how they practice: So, I'm an Australian. We don't have OnStar but I've heard about it via the net. I keep getting emails for 2 different people's OnStar accounts to my Email address... and OnStar won't do anything about it. I have a pretty short Gmail address becaus…

Oh brother, I know your pain. I too have a 6 character gmail address because I signed up in 2004 when it was in beta and I too get email for all sorts of people (both accidentally and because people just give out my email address as a fake when they sign up for something stupid). It can be fun too though, like when someone signs up for a dating site with your email and you can login to what is effectively your accoun…

WOW! I was also an early adopter of Gmail and have a six-letter gmail address as well that I got all sorts of emails that were from other people (but with the same name as mine). In inspecting the raw email content, the "To:" field is correctly spelled with my gmail address but the email content have been nothing to do with me: someone else's group invite, account registration that was clearly not me, flight confirmation emails, hotel booking confirmation emails, bills, work related emails and etc. You name it.

Is this a widespread issue with Gmail?

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Yowza. I don't see how all mfgrs don't move to Tesla's update model. Knowing how things go it'll probably be 10 years before we're there.

The answer is Dealers. Their dealers would sue them if they lost all the revenue they get from updating customers vehicles. On the flipside, it would save the manufacturers a ton of money because they wouldn't be paying dealers to perform these updates when they're under warranty. This also explains why Tesla has to do OTA updates... no dealers.

Most Tesla customers live nearish to a Tesla repair center. So it's not like Tesla is forced to do OTA, but it sure is convenient to have the frequent updates that OTA enables.

Re: Chevrolet to offer unlimited data plan with cars

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I recently picked up a Volt which includes this OnStar 4G setup and have to say I'm extremely concerned at how quickly this "my car is on the internet" feature set is spreading. Everything is managed by OnStar through their device that's factory installed into every new Chevy vehicle. They have had security breaches and had to fix white-hat reported vulnerabilities in the past[1]. This system isn't just "4G wifi as a…

I've posted this before, but it's relevant so I'll post it again. Not sure if this has changed since I last posted, but it's a hell of a warning sign on how they practice: So, I'm an Australian. We don't have OnStar but I've heard about it via the net. I keep getting emails for 2 different people's OnStar accounts to my Email address... and OnStar won't do anything about it. I have a pretty short Gmail address becaus…

Here's what I do in these situations:

1) determine the email pattern for gm employees, usually it is something like john.doe@gm.com 2) find the head of every major department related to my issue as well as the CEO and add their addresses to an email 3)provide documentation of all attempts to correct the issue and if you use outlook, request read receipts just to be 'that person', send an email highlighting your multiple attempts to correct this, how you are willing to escalate it to x,,y, or z. Media, government agency, etc. if it is not dealt with appropriately. 4) success

I've received gift cards, emails from CEO's apologizing, finally got removed (after 6 months of emails to regular staff trying to stop it) from an automated Dell email invoicing the wrong company, etc.

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