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Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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I only regret that I have but one app to delete

Does anyone know if apps get a chance to phone home about their deletion? Is the owner going to see a specific stat about this action?

They can definitely see the stats for when users click the "Delete Account" button.

Also they can see the usage metrics drop for existing consumers, who have not deleted their accounts but have simply deleted the app.

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Pro tip for whistleblowers: Hire an attorney before you blow the whistle, and listen to their advice. Preferably an attorney who has litigated against your employer in the past. If you simply must write a diatribe beforehand then stick the facts of the issue at-hand (eg. discrimination) and avoid the temptation to author a tell all. Even the best future employers will be given pause upon learning of your tell all blo…

And people were asking why these women just don't sue. It seems people need to be careful and think twice even when writing a blog post let alone sue.

If you are refering to me, I asked why she doesn't go to a lawyer... I had consulted lawyers many times in my life, but never sued.

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

#63

I only regret that I have but one app to delete

Does anyone know if apps get a chance to phone home about their deletion? Is the owner going to see a specific stat about this action?

iOS has no documented event for apps to be notified when an app is deleted. I assume it is the same in Android.

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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I only regret that I have but one app to delete

Does anyone know if apps get a chance to phone home about their deletion? Is the owner going to see a specific stat about this action?

I imagine quite a lot who were motivated enough to delete the app because of this would also delete their Uber account. As I understand it (I've never had an Uber account) there's an optional feedback thing where you can say why you're deleting the account.

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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The title of this submission is a strict paraphrasing (despite being in quotes) of an already short tweet, which is pretty meh. The full tweet is: "Uber names/blames me for account deletes, and has a different law firm -not Holders - investigating me. I have hired" "Uber names/blames me for account deletes" is a pretty bold claim, and doesn't feel like a routine investigation.

It also has the name of her hired law firm in a frame, you can see it better here https://mobile.twitter.com/susanthesquark/status/83733914152...

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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I had an extended exchange with an Uber employee the other day, in which he steadfastly refused to believe that Uber was going after Fowler after the initial reports of this. Despite countless examples of this kind of behavior in the past, he kept insisting that everything was only "alleged" or "unverified." I'm not sure what kind of cargo cult they have going on over there, but it sure is effective at getting people…

I steadfastly refused to expect , pending more data, investigation with intent to discredit, disparage, or defame Susan Fowler. This is still unclear but I certainly agree that it is very worrying. You can bet that we'll be asking tough questions about it on Tuesday. As an aside, I believe you simply meant "cult" - "cargo cult" is specifically to do with performing actions superficially resembling things that work el…

An alternate idiom that avoids the "cult" versus "cargo cult" confusion would be "I don't know what's in their [corporate] Kool-Aid over there...".

That evokes the image of Jim Jones People's Temple Jonestown mass murder-suicide, using poisoned Flavor Aid beverage mix. In a corporate context, "drinking the Kool-Aid" means to uncritically embrace the corporate culture, even if it is actually toxic.

Anecdotally, companies that try to impress a culture upon their employees always do it to obscure the otherwise obvious shortcomings in the business itself. Without fail, it is continuously reinforced propaganda, designed to create an irrational emotional attachment to the workplace. Subtler versions use "we" or "us" to refer to the employee labor, rather than the owners and managers.

Everyone does it to some extent, and once you can see the fnords, you can't stop seeing them.

The literal cargo cultists were south Pacific islanders that saw temporary military airfields constructed in World War 2, and planes filled with valuable cargo landing on them or making airdrops, correlated the two, and then built their own mock airfields so that the goods would once again rain down from the sky. The business of running a working airfield was transformed into a religious ritual to call down manna from heaven. In a modern figurative sense, "cargo culting" is something like instituting a daily stand-up meeting when your development process is not actually Agile Manifesto compatible.

While "cult" is in a literal sense nothing more than a group with a common religion, the word has acquired a derogatory shading that implies practices hostile and predatory to the membership, secrecy, and insularity. If your religion severely punishes heterodoxy or apostasy, attempts to supplant or replace your supportive institutions such as family, friends, and government, and encourages you to liquidate your own wealth and transfer it to the religious leadership, it will probably be referred to by non-members and the news media as a cult. Some businesses employ cult-like practices, and often replace the direct tithing with less obvious schemes, such as multilevel marketing or sweatshop labor.

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Well I had not yet deleted the Uber app, but now? Gonzo! And it's not just Susan's account, but all the revelations of how crappy their company culture is, the immaturity and general misbehavior of their CEO (who clearly doesn't understand how being a CEO of such a huge company means he needs to grow up super fast and act like a decent moral human being).

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Because she's a woman and women never lie and only ever tell the truth and couldn't possibly have anything to gain by martyring themselves and having the media heap praise and attention upon them. It may not be reflected in societies laws, but for women at least the burden of proof has shifted to the accused. Anyone accused of anything by a woman is now immediately guilty and regardless of what facts they may present…

Accusation put forth against Cosby and Trump did not follow your assumptions.

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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post #43

Because she's a woman and women never lie and only ever tell the truth and couldn't possibly have anything to gain by martyring themselves and having the media heap praise and attention upon them. It may not be reflected in societies laws, but for women at least the burden of proof has shifted to the accused. Anyone accused of anything by a woman is now immediately guilty and regardless of what facts they may present…

Accusation put forth against Cosby and Trump did not follow your assumptions.

The Cosby case is still ongoing, but what accusations have been put forth against Trump and confirmed (except the "pussy tape")? It would be a huge scandal if the president of the US was found guilty of sexual misconduct.
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