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Atlanta to San Francisco: What I Learned Moving Cross-Country

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Re: Atlanta to San Francisco: What I Learned Moving Cross-Country

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Post by mattrepl »

PStamatiou wrote: post #3
qq66 wrote: post #2

I couldn't give away my dog :(

It was a hard choice to make. :-/ But she'll be much better off with someone at home more often, with a backyard and a more active lifestyle/running with her. She was mainly black lab with some chow and pitbull so I took her to the dog park for a good 90 minutes every other day to keep her energy levels in check and not destroy the apartment too much haha.

One thing I considered was living in San Mateo or even Mountain View where you can rent a room in a house with a yard and keep your dog. If you must be in SF, then find a roommate and rent a townhouse with a yard in Potrero Hill.

All easier said than done, but I could never leave my dog.

Good luck!

Re: Atlanta to San Francisco: What I Learned Moving Cross-Country

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Post by asmithmd1 »

yellowbkpk wrote: post #7
brm wrote: post #6

Its always interesting to me to see people's reactions when moving from poorly planned sprawling cities to some of the better planned more organically laid out cities in the US (DC, NY, Chicago, Portland, SF, etc) your quality of life changes drastically when you get to leave the car behind and walk around or just hop on efficient public transit and go anywhere you want. I'm moving from the east coast to Seattle this…

I could not agree more. I've taken Amtrak's Empire Builder from Chicago to Seattle and Portland several times and each time the size of the US was simply awesome. I highly recommend doing it. In the fall and winter the cross country ticket is $170 each way and if you upgrade to a roomette, $300 each way (meals included). Sitting for a dinner chat with a different group for 3 nights in a row + staring out the window a…

You can thank me for subsidizing that low cost with my Boston - NYC trips which cost well over $100 each way. Often you can fly from Boston to LaGuardia for less than the train. High fares on the east coast routes subsidize those cheap cross country "named" trains.

Pro tip: Never buy a ticket on a named train i.e. "Empire Builder", "Vermonter" when just trying to get between cities - they are frequently many hours late.

Oh, and that Verizon wireless commercial that shows a guy spotting a good looking girl already on a train and he quickly changes his ticket using his smart phone; that can't be done, not even with a voice call. To change an Amtrak ticket you have to physically take the ticket to a ticket window.

Just about every time I take Amtrak I get pissed-off by the high cost and indifferent service.

Re: Atlanta to San Francisco: What I Learned Moving Cross-Country

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Post by alabut »

PStamatiou wrote: post #3
qq66 wrote: post #2

I couldn't give away my dog :(

It was a hard choice to make. :-/ But she'll be much better off with someone at home more often, with a backyard and a more active lifestyle/running with her. She was mainly black lab with some chow and pitbull so I took her to the dog park for a good 90 minutes every other day to keep her energy levels in check and not destroy the apartment too much haha.

We've got three of them in the isocket office - you're welcome to visit and get your dog fix anytime. Especially if you stop by after our product launch this week so we can do another usability testing session. It's come a long way since you saw it last :)

Re: Atlanta to San Francisco: What I Learned Moving Cross-Country

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Post by benatkin »

_delirium wrote: post #5

I've found the public-transit comparison decidedly more mixed than a clear "SF wins". Admittedly, I lived in midtown in Atlanta, and mostly went to other places that have good subway service: Decatur, downtown, Buckhead, the airport, etc. To get to other places, the buses are kind of lame, but I wouldn't say they're any more lame than Muni's terrible buses. I did have a car, but I rarely drove; probably once every fe…

There's Cobb County Transit, too. I was in Atlanta last weekend, staying near the Cumberland Mall while going to a conference in Midtown, and didn't know about Cobb County Transit until I saw a bus. It wasn't on GMaps, while MARTA was. Now I know that when I visit a city I haven't been to, I ought to check more than just GMaps.

Of course, that wasn't the only mistake I made while planning. If I'd booked my hotel sooner, I could have got a nice place, within walking distance to the conference, at a reasonable price.

I like this article because it reminds me that planning can be fun, isn't really that hard, and can help a great deal. It sounds like Stammy got a much nicer place than he would have if he didn't reply to new listings. It was also smart to get in-building laundry. My current place in Boulder has me going to the laundromat, and it's much more of a distraction than I thought it would be, even if I pay them to do my laundry. It makes me take my car on days when I'd much rather be on foot or on a bike.

...and I concur about grocery stores being important. Boulder has three stores I like to frequent really close to each other: Whole Foods, Vitamin Cottage, and Sunflower Market. Each has their strong points. Whole Foods has everything and a great salad bar and deli; Vitamin Cottage has only organic produce, with better prices than Whole Foods, and Sunflower often has the best prices town on both organic and non-organic produce.

Re: Atlanta to San Francisco: What I Learned Moving Cross-Country

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Post by rjett »

If you have a driving partner, I would recommend a cross-country driving trip to everyone. A few months ago I moved from Charlottesville, VA out to the Bay Area. I stopped in Memphis, Amarillo, Phoenix, LA and drove up highway 101 from there. It's a weird feeling to describe, but driving across the entire country almost gives you a renewed sense of patriotism.

Oh yeah almost forgot... drive the speed limit in Texas.

Re: Atlanta to San Francisco: What I Learned Moving Cross-Country

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Post by yellowbkpk »

asmithmd1 wrote: post #12
yellowbkpk wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could not agree more. I've taken Amtrak's Empire Builder from Chicago to Seattle and Portland several times and each time the size of the US was simply awesome. I highly recommend doing it. In the fall and winter the cross country ticket is $170 each way and if you upgrade to a roomette, $300 each way (meals included). Sitting for a dinner chat with a different group for 3 nights in a row + staring out the window a…

You can thank me for subsidizing that low cost with my Boston - NYC trips which cost well over $100 each way. Often you can fly from Boston to LaGuardia for less than the train. High fares on the east coast routes subsidize those cheap cross country "named" trains. Pro tip: Never buy a ticket on a named train i.e. "Empire Builder", "Vermonter" when just trying to get between cities - they are frequently many hours la…

> You can thank me for subsidizing that low cost with my Boston - NYC trips which cost well over $100 each way. Often you can fly from Boston to LaGuardia for less than the train. High fares on the east coast routes subsidize those cheap cross country "named" trains.

Thanks, but federal and state tax dollars are also a major subsidy source (especially on the Empire Builder which is one of the main sources of tourists for Idaho/Wyoming/etc.).

> Pro tip: Never buy a ticket on a named train i.e. "Empire Builder", "Vermonter" when just trying to get between cities - they are frequently many hours late.

You're right, but they've been getting better. Especially since winter, when the weather wreaked havoc on the system. See http://www.trainweb.org/capt/AmtrakMapsForward.html for "real time" calculated location of the trains and how late they are.

> Oh, and that Verizon wireless commercial that shows a guy spotting a good looking girl already on a train and he quickly changes his ticket using his smart phone; that can't be done, not even with a voice call. To change an Amtrak ticket you have to physically take the ticket to a ticket window.

I've changed tickets several times over the phone and online. They ask you to go to the counter to verify ID, but if you swipe your card at the FasTrak station you can get the new ticket printed just fine.

> Just about every time I take Amtrak I get pissed-off by the high cost and indifferent service.

I've had the exact opposite experience. On the Empire Builder, the staff is always courteous (even to unruly passengers) and is genuinely interested in the wellbeing of the passengers. I've made friends with some of the workers at the smaller Amtrak stations along the EB route -- they make for great conversation when you're waiting for the train.

Re: Atlanta to San Francisco: What I Learned Moving Cross-Country

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Post by mpare »

maxklein wrote: post #10

I've moved around a lot, but bigger distances (Asia, a lot within Europe Europe, Africa), and one thing I've noticed is that the more you move, the more you abstract away the particular details of the place and focus on a start of bigger picture. For example, if I move now, I'd focus on food (supermarkets, restaurants) and transport, and once I have understood, I'd be basically comfortable already, and I'd just let t…

I noticed the same pattern as I've been moving around the last few years.

Transportation is huge -- there was a big difference for me moving even just two metro stops farther from my job in Paris.

Jonah Lehrer wrote a post on this a while ago: http://scienceblogs.com/cortex/2010/03/commuting.php

    According to the calculations of Frey and Stutzer, a person with a one-hour commute 
    has to earn 40 percent more money to be as satisfied with life as someone who walks to 
    the office.

Re: Atlanta to San Francisco: What I Learned Moving Cross-Country

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Post by barnaby »

Nice.

I moved out to SF 6 months ago from upstate NY. Rent is expensive, but my girlfriend and got an apartment for $1,200/month, 1 bedroom, 1 livingroom/kitchen, 1 bath. And there's an L stop right out front of our door... though, it does take 20 minutes to get downtown on it, we're in the sunset.

I got rid of a lot of stuff while moving too. It's better that way. I recommend that to everybody who's moving: stuff is expensive not valuable, just get rid of it, buy new stuff at Ikea (1 futon bed, 2 dressers, 1 table, 2 bedside tables plus lamps, all for just over $1,000).

Since we flew out here (I sold my car, she had hers shipped out here) I'd say we spent under $5,000 on the move.

It's totally awesome out here. Worth every penny!

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