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Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by exprA »

tracker1 wrote: post #70
TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #30

The worst of both worlds! The Windows kernel and the Linux UI! I kid; I kid. Looks fun.

I know you're joking, and while it is cool, that's kind of my thought as well. Yes, get the X11-style integration working so it's easier to run linux gui software... but imho the Windows desktop since 7 is better than most on the linux side. I'm glad to see this work getting done.. and I hope in means native docker for linux and windows containers native... though, I also have no interest in running windows container…

>but imho the Windows desktop since 7 is better than most on the linux side.

Are you by any chance a fan of minimalism?

Windows desktop by default comes with almost no features at all – be it about window management, file management, network connectivity (shares) or anything else. Personally I find using a plain Windows desktop an exercise in frustration for that.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by kuschku »

erklik wrote: post #80
kuschku wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KDE Plasma 5 is actually reasonably modern. http://i.imgur.com/XcnYxy0.png

elementaryOS ever more so. Although, it is a bit of a clone of MacOSX which may be a turn off for some but still is quite user friendly. I installed it for my family members ( not at all knowledgeable people in terms of computers etc ) and they all have gotten along with it very well.

KDE Plasma recently added a new unified theming system, and there is now a theme to make KDE Plasma look and work exactly like macOS with that (with menus in top bar, dock, etc)

But yes, elementary does the "good defaults are impirtant" very well.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by Asooka »

flukus wrote: post #45
dingo_bat wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Biggest overstatement. Linux gaming, though becoming more possible, is nowhere near gaming on windows. Forget game availability, even most GPUs are not properly supported on most Linuxes.

> even most GPUs are not properly supported on most Linuxes This situation is rapidly changing too with ATI and intels OSS GPU drivers.

I've been hearing some variations on "getting better any time now" since about 2003. Stop trying to make the Linux Desktop happen. It's not going to happen. In fact, if you stop making it happen, maybe it will finally stabilise enough that it actually happens.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by swah »

kuschku wrote: post #77
mtdewcmu wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right... You can make Windows 10 look like a unix workstation from 1995.

KDE Plasma 5 is actually reasonably modern. http://i.imgur.com/XcnYxy0.png

Looks almost nice, but feels like spacing and font size is wrong on some places. Maybe I'm just used to win10...

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by frozenport »

wereHamster wrote: post #72

Am I the only one surprised that a project which is still under active development still uses sourceforge ( https://sourceforge.net/projects/vcxsrv/ )? SF should be dead after it began hijacking projects and added adware to installers? https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourc...

Did you juat forgive github for the recent change to their TOS that bans GPL?! No, we should host everything on high uptime content agnostic platforms like S3. Or run our own infastructure but use a 3rd party service like GitLab for improved redundancy!

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by baldfat »

kuschku wrote: post #77
mtdewcmu wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right... You can make Windows 10 look like a unix workstation from 1995.

KDE Plasma 5 is actually reasonably modern. http://i.imgur.com/XcnYxy0.png

KDE is my favorite DE by far and it is very much the most advanced environment I know. The integration is the best and the ability to tweak everything is great.

Personally I use i3 90% of the time and use many KDE applications. KDiff, Dolphin and Gwenview are my go to for me, well that and ranger the console file manager.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by amiga-workbench »

kuschku wrote: post #77
mtdewcmu wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right... You can make Windows 10 look like a unix workstation from 1995.

KDE Plasma 5 is actually reasonably modern. http://i.imgur.com/XcnYxy0.png

KDE always felt quite sloppy to me, too much going on, weird borders and decorations, screwy inconsistent padding etc.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by baldfat »

frozenport wrote: post #85
wereHamster wrote: post #72

Am I the only one surprised that a project which is still under active development still uses sourceforge ( https://sourceforge.net/projects/vcxsrv/ )? SF should be dead after it began hijacking projects and added adware to installers? https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourc...

Did you juat forgive github for the recent change to their TOS that bans GPL?! No, we should host everything on high uptime content agnostic platforms like S3. Or run our own infastructure but use a 3rd party service like GitLab for improved redundancy!

I think once the dust falls everyone will realize that GPL is fine. This github is lawyer speech for how they allow search results. TOS releases always are drama till people settle down and read what it actually says and its intent.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

Florin_Andrei wrote: post #26
killjoywashere wrote: post #13

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He's sort of running open source desktops on a Windows 10 kernel. But not really, there's an abstraction layer called WSL in between. There are some interesting effects though: you can touch test.txt in Bash and then open that file in Notepad without setting up any network shares, virtual machines, etc. In my mind, Microsoft developed WSL to try to keep developers: if you grew up on Linux but are now employed maintai…

> In my mind, Microsoft developed WSL to try to keep developers: if you grew up on Linux but are now employed maintaining Windows servers, WSL gives you a way to get to your shell of choice IMO Cygwin did that well enough before WSL. I "grew up on Linux" (starting back in the day when it came on a stack of floppies and nobody knew what it was) and I've always installed Cygwin on all Windows systems where I had admin…

I am using WSL on my new box, but also have Cygwin installed. Cygwin is night and day worse than WSL. But I have to have Cygwin installed to get CLion to work.

I look forward to the day when MingW and Cygwin can be replaced with the far nicer WSL alternative. It really is mostly seamless, and very fast.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by kuschku »

swah wrote: post #84
kuschku wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KDE Plasma 5 is actually reasonably modern. http://i.imgur.com/XcnYxy0.png

Looks almost nice, but feels like spacing and font size is wrong on some places. Maybe I'm just used to win10...

Definitely, there’s a lot to improve, and it certainly isn’t perfect – but it’s not a desktop that you’d compare to Windows 95 or CDE.
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