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Obviously, HP Thinks We Are Stupid

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Re: Obviously, HP Thinks We Are Stupid

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People are stupid - but not all of them. Look at the comments around you :)

Unfortunately collectively means that if you are the only one intelligent around stupid people, then your group is still considered stupid.

I think most people who believe they are "the only intelligent one around stupid people" are likely mistaken in at least one respect. Probably two. Possibly even three.

Re: Obviously, HP Thinks We Are Stupid

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Ok, I agree. So what are we to do? Refills are notoriously messy, and the quality is often so low, it's even unacceptable for my recipes. And knockoff cartridges suffer from similar outcomes and strange fates (one time a printer I had failed to even recognize it since the circuitry in the knockoff failed to identify itself properly)... How can we buy decent quality carts without paying these ripoff prices?

A lot of printers let you hack the cartridges so they last longer (often just a little piece of tape). Search the internet for your model.

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Unfortunately collectively means that if you are the only one intelligent around stupid people, then your group is still considered stupid.

I think most people who believe they are "the only intelligent one around stupid people" are likely mistaken in at least one respect. Probably two. Possibly even three.

Yes, the saying of Confucius is "When three men walk together, there is surely my teacher among them." The smartest people recognize that they can learn from anyone, and need to.

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The iPhone is a great example. People think I'm nuts when I say I bought the 3G for €500 (inc VAT, which I then claimed back). Why the hell would I pay that much? Oh, I say, because it's unlocked, I've only spent about €20 on data & calls so far (10 months), can swap the SIM out when abroad to avoid data roaming, and because the cheapest contract deal at the time worked out to a total of around €900 after the minimum…

one of my big gripes is (in the UK) all these FREE IPHONE! FREE LAPTOP! on a £30 - £40 / month contract. in small print: contract is 24 months. That's 960 quid. The laptop is a shitty bargain-basement dell that you get for £200. And on top of that you got data charges, 0845 numbers etc etc.

Yeah, they seem to do those all across Europe. In Austria we're fortunate to have dirt cheap data and voice contracts and prepaid tariffs which are much better alternatives. That doesn't seem to be the case most places, especially for data.

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One of the best investments that I made about 7 years ago was to buy a black and white laser printer for home: http://www.okidata.com/mkt/downloads/B4250_B4350Series.pdf I paid about €250 for it (which then was thousands of pages (I'd guesstimate 5000 pages), it still hasn't run out of its initial toner cartridge, and the prices I've seen for when it does are about €25. With printers, as with much in the electronics…

I have a Dell laser printer I bought off of woot.com for $99 years ago. Still on its initial toner cartridge. Still works 100% flawlessly. It plugs in via ethernet, uses zeroconf/Bonjour, and requires no drivers. I still can't believe what a ridiculously good deal it was. Like some other commenters here, if I need a color print, I just walk down the street and have a professional printer do it for one or two dollars…

What is your model of Dell laser printer, if you don't mind me asking?

Re: Obviously, HP Thinks We Are Stupid

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thesharklady was certainly bitter about ink prices, but why? She mentioned other choices - why get upset about it? HP marketing works great and good for them. BTW the cartridge matters lightyears more than the printer regarding print quality. The printer price is almost irrelevant. It only relates to durability/mtbf of the paper path. Its like razors vs blades.

Agree. If she doesn't use HP products, why does she care what they charge? That Excel-generated graph is terrible too.

Like others, I bought a cheap wireless Brother B&W laser for around $125 over a year ago and I'm still on the included freebie toner. Got a replacement as I thought it was getting low but the tape-over-the-hole trick has made it last months longer. I love being able to print from any laptop around the house.

Re: Obviously, HP Thinks We Are Stupid

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I have a Dell laser printer I bought off of woot.com for $99 years ago. Still on its initial toner cartridge. Still works 100% flawlessly. It plugs in via ethernet, uses zeroconf/Bonjour, and requires no drivers. I still can't believe what a ridiculously good deal it was. Like some other commenters here, if I need a color print, I just walk down the street and have a professional printer do it for one or two dollars…

What is your model of Dell laser printer, if you don't mind me asking?

1700n. It was new, not refurbished, and came with a toner.
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