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Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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post #37

I was experimenting running stuff like PyCharm, VS Code, Sublime etc. in WSl through X11 Forwarding. Eventually I gave up and just run it properly in VirtualBox with seamless mode.

How did you enable seamless mode? I'm using VirtualBox to run a Debian desktop with the Gala WM, but I can't get the seamless mode to work. (And I couldn't with Ubuntu, either.)

You need to install the guest addition tools or whatever they are called. Then under Views there is seamless mode.

Were you not able to use it at all or just not with Gala WM?

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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The worst of both worlds! The Windows kernel and the Linux UI! I kid; I kid. Looks fun.

Right... You can make Windows 10 look like a unix workstation from 1995.

I.e. Windows 95, more or less.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I kind of want to have a development environment in Linux. I also like to game, so for that Windows (in non-vm) is better. So that's why I tried to go with WSL in the first place. But Virtualbox seamless is a nice middle ground between the two OS and I don't have to worry about things that haven't been implemented in WSL.

Linux gaming has been improving rapidly lately, in another year I doubt windows will be necessary.

Not directly related to this thread but I want to have a little moan about the Steam client, so here goes:

When I open Steam it opens in the Store view in the main window, and the promotions pop-up also appears with sales and promo info. Great, except that 90% of the time the main store page and the pop-up are pushing Windows only games. I game on an iMac and occasionally on a Linux laptop. I have never bought a Windows only game. I send survey info to Valve.

If Linux (and Mac) gaming is to grow Valve need to try harder to get the games into my field of vision. It's silly that I click on the details button of the promo pop-up for a whole series of games only to scroll through the list and mutter "windoes only" to myself repeatedly. It simply is not content aimed at me at all, and they know who I am and the platform I am using.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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post #15

Right now I'm waiting for a GCC related fix in WSL that is scheduled to get pushed in April. In the meantime I've spun up Ubuntu in VirtualBox that gets the job done. This looks like a great option to play around with once that GCC fix is pushed

What's wrong with GCC? What's it fixing?

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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post #20

I bet RMS will now ask people to start calling it GNU/Windows :)

I know this is a joke, but at the same time, it illustrated how influential the GNU project is. All thanks to RMS :). I don't care how unreasonable this man is, he is a great man.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

#68
Edit: nvm I read this backwards

Do you need a license of Windows 10? (Read the article)

I think now it's hardware licensed in the case of a computer that was bought with Windows 10 on it. Then on re-installs you just get an iso of Windows 10, no key. So in this case if you didn't have Windows 10 to begin with...

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

#69
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Biggest overstatement. Linux gaming, though becoming more possible, is nowhere near gaming on windows. Forget game availability, even most GPUs are not properly supported on most Linuxes.

> even most GPUs are not properly supported on most Linuxes This situation is rapidly changing too with ATI and intels OSS GPU drivers.

Rapidly? How long since ATI/AMD has been talking about improving their drivers? A decade? No, if history is in any way predicting the future then these talks are completely hollow.

Intel drivers are Ok though.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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The worst of both worlds! The Windows kernel and the Linux UI! I kid; I kid. Looks fun.

I know you're joking, and while it is cool, that's kind of my thought as well. Yes, get the X11-style integration working so it's easier to run linux gui software... but imho the Windows desktop since 7 is better than most on the linux side.

I'm glad to see this work getting done.. and I hope in means native docker for linux and windows containers native... though, I also have no interest in running windows containers either... it would be nice to see the option. Not sure if this effort will bear fruit to such extent in Azure, but I can't help but think if it reaches compatible enough for docker linux containers, that Azure will get a very compelling docker story.

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