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Dot Watch – A braille and tactile smartwatch

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Re: Dot Watch – A braille and tactile smartwatch

#91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the video on the linked page they show several blind people using the watch, they seem genuinely surprised at the information they read from its face. Do you suspect this to be faked?

Yes, I believe it is faked. I worked in the braille community for years and micro-actuators that actually work are like a holy grail. If they had one that actually worked, they would be plastering their site with descriptions of their new world changing mirco-actuation mechanism. They don't show a real video of it actuating. It just makes no sense. Its like if you invented fusion power and spent the entire time showi…

For those who think that it shouldn't be that hard: "actually works" means that you can make an actuator in relatively low quantities that

- is smal, ideally the distance between Braille dots or about (distance within a character is smaller than that between dots in different characters) 2.5 mm by 2.5 mm, with a height of less than 2cm or so,

- can lift a dot by about 1mm (from definitely not above the surface to 0.9mm above it),

- withstands a force of about .3N (30 grams),

- can be switched while the user exerts that 30 gram force on it,

- will work for 10^6 actuations,

- works reliably in the presence of dirt, grease and human sweat,

- doesn't require enormous amounts of power (piezo-electric Braille cells only need power when switching),

- is safe when users (almost) touch them with their bare fingers (piezo-electric cells use 200V or so to switch, but that is at a few cm from the Braille pins),

- can be produced for a few dollars (you need 8 for a Braille cell or 160 for a 20-character display, so it adds up). If your goal is to make a full page (say 8000 pins) $1 each already is too much.

You also wil like want to switch 500 of these in 0.1s or so.

Especially if you forget about the desired reliability and/or limit the force or the travel, the problem gets a lot easier.

I think the videos that these guys posted are real, but wonder how long this device will keep working.

Re: Dot Watch – A braille and tactile smartwatch

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post #19

How are the "pixels" turned on and off, technically? Is it done by a small magnetic coil? Or by electrostatic means? Or otherwise? Does a non-switching pixel require a current?

It could work like the tip of a clicky pen, which doesn't require energy to maintain state.

Possibly, but then it would require an even longer throw to engage the latch (clicky pens extend past their writing position when clicked, in order to catch their latches and then settle into writing position).

Re: Dot Watch – A braille and tactile smartwatch

#93
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of logic is "people need to do something more difficult because it's easier for people who aren't the same as me"? Also, who's to say that people shouldn't be encouraged to use audiobooks rather then read text-based liturature? When listening to an audio book I can do many other things like study for an exam or program. I can't read a book via text and write software at the same time. I don't think we shoul…

Is Braille actually harder to learn/use than normal writing systems? > When listening to an audio book I can do many other things like study for an exam or program. Why don't you just study for your exam and write code in audio?

> Why don't you just study for your exam and write code in audio?

I see no reason why, given enough work, a sufficient audio-interfaced IDE cannot be created. I think that is the way we should go. A real AI tied to a speach processor and a polog-like system would be the best UX for programming possible.

Think of Star Trek, "Computer, do X, Y, Z and then run that program".

I definetly don't think text is the best interface with a computer or any system for that matter. That's why I'm saying what I'm saying.

And for now, we're talking about telling the time, not expressing a perfect proof for infinitly complex ideas. I think Siri is good enough for that query as it stands.

Re: Dot Watch – A braille and tactile smartwatch

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It works like this: https://hackaday.io/project/12442-molbed-modular-low-cost-br... It is a tiny magnet inside a solenoid. At each end of the solenoid there is a steel part, which the magnets stick to when on or off. To switch state the coil is energized. Hall effect (or other) sensors can tell where the magnet is and what state the pin is in. It doesn't use any power when it's holding state but switching can consume…

Does it really? This kind of mechanism is not reliable for 10k switches even... (Due to vibration damaging the pin.) And solenoids are nowhere near as small.

It may use nitinol wire, which can work with smaller latches. They can last trillions of cycles. I really doubt it though, making something at that size would be extremely expensive, unless they figured out a very simple way to work it.

https://g.redditmedia.com/rFj5xjIilFQKXM1N6sq8asAi5i4BQTfUgo...

Re: Dot Watch – A braille and tactile smartwatch

#97

A smartwatch for vision impaired, advertised a website without a lot of accessibility provisions (not to mention the scrolljacking and "are you sure you want to leave" onexit hooks). What a world we live in.

Hi, this is Dennis Jung from Dot Incorporation At the current moment, we are revamping our website https://dotincorp.com/ - our goal is to make all information available in both text and audio forms and leave no one behind. We would like to apologize for any inconvenience. Meanwhile, you can visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/dotsmartbraillewatch to find out about our latest updates and news. Thank you.

Re: Dot Watch – A braille and tactile smartwatch

#98
post #3

That looked a bit like blogspam, or whatever the word it. It wasn't very information-dense, anyway. The manufacturer seems to be here: http://fingerson.strikingly.com/ . I guess it's a smart watch since it pairs over BT with a cell phone, and can show notifications from the phone. It can show the current time without a phone connection, yay. No custom installable apps on the watch itself as far as I could see, but pe…

It's true there are 4 cells x 6 dots = 24 dots. rests are just the carvings and design, same applies to the mid line to provide visually impaired user to sense "left" and "right"

Re: Dot Watch – A braille and tactile smartwatch

#99

Any reason for the blind to use this over earbuds paired with Siri, Alexa, or any other voice-based interface?

Something to think about.. would you rather read your private messages or have your speaker say it out loud for everyone to hear..

Re: Dot Watch – A braille and tactile smartwatch

#100

I'm visually impaired. I tried the apple watch a couple of months ago, but concluded it wasn't for me because using VoiceOver imposes such a delay that it's not noticably faster than taking my phone out of my pocket. This braille watch might be much more practical. I'm seeing a lot of healthy scepticism in the comment section. I'm visually impaired, not blind, so I haven't checked this page with accessibility tools.…

Hi, this is Dennis Jung from Dot Incorporation At the current moment, we are revamping our website https://dotincorp.com/ - our goal is to make all information available in both text and audio forms and leave no one behind. We would like to apologize for any inconvenience. Meanwhile, you can visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/dotsmartbraillewatch to find out about our latest updates and news. Thank you.
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