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Re: How a French scholar was treated at US airport

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Post by monodeldiablo »

jacquesm wrote: post #162
monodeldiablo wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't encourage ill treatment of US citizens overseas. Americans who travel outside her borders are not the people making these decisions, tend to be much more worldly than the average citizen, and are the first to be horrified at these developments. If you want to make the US change, speak the language we speak: lawsuits. Sue, sue, sue. Call your embassy and demand that they pressure the White House to retrac…

> Americans who travel outside her borders are not the people making these decisions, tend to be much more worldly than the average citizen, and are the first to be horrified at these developments. They also most likely wield dis-proportionally large influence to get this nonsense stopped.

Why? What would give you that idea? "People who travel internationally" is not, to my knowledge, a privileged political class in the US.

Re: How a French scholar was treated at US airport

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Post by jacquesm »

monodeldiablo wrote: post #261
jacquesm wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Americans who travel outside her borders are not the people making these decisions, tend to be much more worldly than the average citizen, and are the first to be horrified at these developments. They also most likely wield dis-proportionally large influence to get this nonsense stopped.

Why? What would give you that idea? "People who travel internationally" is not, to my knowledge, a privileged political class in the US.

People who travel internationally tend to be wealthier and better educated than those that never leave their country.

They don't need to be a privileged political class in order to wield more influence since influence tends to be loosely correlated with wealth. See also: Trumps billionaire cabinet.

Re: How a French scholar was treated at US airport

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Post by benedikt »

Beltiras wrote: post #142
stagbeetle wrote: post #118

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On what grounds? From the state of border control? From one measly article?

Yes from the state of border control and not just this one. CBP is doing industrial espionage with their phone data seizures. I'm avoiding US conferences because of it where I have options elsewhere. I imagine many are doing the same. I probably have to bite the bullet this fall and go to San Fransisco for a conference. I won't be carrying any electronic devices for that trip as a security precaution that CBP asks me…

Completely off topic, but this thread is a bit old anyway. Did you use the this nick on #linux.is@ircnet a "couple" of years ago ?

Re: How a French scholar was treated at US airport

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Post by [deleted] »

Beltiras wrote: post #142
stagbeetle wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On what grounds? From the state of border control? From one measly article?

Yes from the state of border control and not just this one. CBP is doing industrial espionage with their phone data seizures. I'm avoiding US conferences because of it where I have options elsewhere. I imagine many are doing the same. I probably have to bite the bullet this fall and go to San Fransisco for a conference. I won't be carrying any electronic devices for that trip as a security precaution that CBP asks me…

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Re: How a French scholar was treated at US airport

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Post by Beltiras »

benedikt wrote: post #263
Beltiras wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes from the state of border control and not just this one. CBP is doing industrial espionage with their phone data seizures. I'm avoiding US conferences because of it where I have options elsewhere. I imagine many are doing the same. I probably have to bite the bullet this fall and go to San Fransisco for a conference. I won't be carrying any electronic devices for that trip as a security precaution that CBP asks me…

Completely off topic, but this thread is a bit old anyway. Did you use the this nick on #linux.is@ircnet a "couple" of years ago ?

Nope. But we are acquainted. Go through my comments and you will figure out how we know each other ;)

Re: How a French scholar was treated at US airport

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Post by infodroid »

schtitt wrote: post #103
infodroid wrote: post #89

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That's just wrong. In the original comment, "as" was used as a preposition and not as a conjunction. But it is grammatically incorrect to use the preposition "as" to draw a comparison instead of "like". See for example: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/as-o... .

You all bring up good points, and I agree that the usage was imprecise and/or wrong, though the original comment did, IMO, contain enough information that you should be able to deduce with a significant probability (in the Bayesian sense) whether or not I am, indeed, the great French historian Henry Rousso!

No, there wasn't enough information to conclude anything either way. That's why I asked the question.
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