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I understand the viewpoint; but what about a pragmatic peaceful solution: let the persons in need organize and spread the knowledge. We probably could setup an open statistical sufferers sharing platform to avoid rumor/placebo effects without resorting to trust a big industry.
Why can't we let people have freedom, but instead propose forcing sick people to mount a lobbying effort?
Given Choice, Patients Will Choose Cannabis Over Prescribed Opioids
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I have a friend who lost a bunch of weight (and was very overweight) in a relatively short period. He then developed gout, which is apparently agonizing. He did the same things as you, and like you, is "in awe". Just having seen the difference in him I'm prettied impressed too. I'm glad that you've found something that works for you.
Pain from gout is excruciating. It is incredibly painful, and you can't put pressure on it, you can't even cover it with a light sheet, you can't sleep... and it goes on for days, sometimes weeks. My longest attack was 2 months long. Standard opioids didn't touch. Should have tried MJ instead.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a friend who lost a bunch of weight (and was very overweight) in a relatively short period. He then developed gout, which is apparently agonizing. He did the same things as you, and like you, is "in awe". Just having seen the difference in him I'm prettied impressed too. I'm glad that you've found something that works for you.
Pain from gout is excruciating. It is incredibly painful, and you can't put pressure on it, you can't even cover it with a light sheet, you can't sleep... and it goes on for days, sometimes weeks. My longest attack was 2 months long. Standard opioids didn't touch. Should have tried MJ instead.
an acute attack can be stopped with prednisone (a steroid) and toridol (a super strong nsaid) these injections are like $20 each without insurance. and long-term care with allopurinol or alternative is extremely cheap, like $10 a month without insurance. under a doctor's care the prednisone and toridol are very safe. these are extremely common, cheap, widely available drugs. when i say 'stopped', i mean it's fucking GONE within a day, and then you can be given long-term care. gout has a huge genetic component and can flare up while you're living the healthiest of healthy lifestyles.
if you have it bad, it will get worse and worse and more and more frequent, until you get to absurd, comical levels of pain in both sides of your body, to the point of complete functional shutdown of your life, you are NOT going to fix this yourself, or with anything over the counter like naproxen sodium (aleve) or smoking some weed.
my doctor said gout is the worst pain and debilitation you can experience short of physical trauma. the only thing that compares is the worst types of migraines. i let it get to the point where i ruined a 2-week vacation before i snapped out of it and went to see a doctor.
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#134I get kidney stones pretty often (6 times in the last 8 years). I vomit from the pain, convulse on the floor, lose all sense of self as I just struggle to survive the sensation. It is intense. Usually I have to go to the emergency room for IV opioids. Then they give you some to take home after you pass the peak of the pain. Last time it happened to me, I went home at around 6pm after going into the hospital that morn…
Have you tried riding rollercoasters with kidney stones? Apparently some people did a study and found that it can be effective at passing kidney stones. Was in news last year https://www.ems1.com/medical-clinical/articles/129734048-Stu... They also said it's good as preventative measure (dislodging before they get too big).
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Crohn's Disease is one of those things where, if you do not suffer from it personally, you have absolutely no business telling someone who does what they may or may not do to treat it - or rather its symptoms. I have a friend with Crohn's, and based on his reserved description (not far past PG-13) as to what he goes through on a daily basis, I would not DARE tell him that he cannot use marijuana, opioids, or anything…
> Nobody - absolutely nobody - has the right tell him differently. > People are ignorant and frankly downright... disgusting/pathetic/opinionated Those are some very strong claims. You can be sympathetic without being hyperbolic, or assuming that the reason that other don't share your views is that they're bad people who don't share your perfect reasoning.
Certain groups & governments ignore science for their own agenda. Or they just don't like the sound of it. I mean, when that's the case, fuck them! Really. They're disgusting.
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Have you tried riding rollercoasters with kidney stones? Apparently some people did a study and found that it can be effective at passing kidney stones. Was in news last year https://www.ems1.com/medical-clinical/articles/129734048-Stu... They also said it's good as preventative measure (dislodging before they get too big).
I would think a trampoline would work even better.
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I see people say this, and I disagree. And just for clarity, I'm definitely pro-drug legalisation - even of drugs I never want to be in the same room with. I think drug companies are precisely the sort of place to produce medical-grade LSD (and other therapudic "recreational" drugs) that has predictable dosages. Same goes for cannabinoids in pill form - especially the sorts meant for folks that would rather skip the…
LSD cannot be patented, so Big Pharma cannot make money on it - they'd have to compete on price, which would lead to really slim margins. If LSD is kept illegal, they can sell patented "alternatives" at huge margins.
This doesn't entirely track. Certainly brand-name pharma that do drug research might not be interested, but generic pharma that simply copy drugs from the brands and sell them at steep discounts certainly would.
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#138For folks looking for more information regarding published studies on the topic, we supply an index of over 800 cannabis studies organized by almost 170 conditions, and summarized with a weighted average by our contributing PhD: https://www.cannabisreports.com/cannabis-studies This includes a section for studies on cannabis and opioid addictions.
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#139I skimmed the paper, I can't see what mode of intake they suggest. I suppose users were smoking joints. Wouldn't vaporised THC inhalation be even more effective and less damaging for health ?
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#140I get kidney stones pretty often (6 times in the last 8 years). I vomit from the pain, convulse on the floor, lose all sense of self as I just struggle to survive the sensation. It is intense. Usually I have to go to the emergency room for IV opioids. Then they give you some to take home after you pass the peak of the pain. Last time it happened to me, I went home at around 6pm after going into the hospital that morn…