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Ideas are not worthless

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Re: Ideas are not worthless

#31
An idea is not worthless! It can give you insight, highlight your gaps in knowledge or spark another idea. but, unless executed you cant see it in action and it wont give you money.

An idea is a thought and execution is action - clearly these are different things.

Re: Ideas are not worthless

#32
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Here's what I think: An idea by itself is worthless without execution, but definitely worth something with the right execution behind it. So you can think of an idea as a multilplier, where the better idea will give somebody skilled in execution a better output. To explain: stupid idea: x0,5 OK idea: x1 good idea: x5 great idea: x10 Now if someone good at execution starts a company with an OK idea he will make, let's…

http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2005/08/ideas_are_just...

Good catch.

Re: Ideas are not worthless

#33
As someone already noted Ideas without execution are just dreams, and everybody has dreams: - I dreamed about going to work flying. - I dreamed about people not killing theirs self in war. - I dreamed about everybody loving me. - I dreamed about travelling all the world. - I dreamed about making the best voice-recognition software in the world. - I dreamed about creating the best voice-music generator program in the wold. - I dreamed about people being able to understand every language on earth easily. ...

It has taken me years of studying and work to be able to put in practice (some of) my ideas. So keep your ideas for yourself, people is busy taking action with their own.

Re: Ideas are not worthless

#34
I try not to separate the idea from the implementation, your idea isn't one solid thing, but a whole set of possibilities to go through. There doesn't seem to usually be much value in the Pet Rock-style one-shot Ideas; you need to accumulate many individual compatible and supportive ideas over time. Like an organism, successful software adapts to suit its environment.

Re: Ideas are not worthless

#35
Why are YC companies so secretive before they launch? If ideas are worthless, why not tell the world what they do (and start getting feedback sooner)?

This alone, for me, proves that ideas are not worthless.

Re: Ideas are not worthless

#36
Ok, here's my crazy idea:

If you have a great idea, you post it to, let's say, 'mycrazyideahaslegs.com' and you pay the site a dollar amount reflecting your belief in the idea. If you really believe in it, you pay $1000. So, what's the point in that? Well, you then get to read all the other $1000 ideas, and those users can read yours. True, your great idea is now shared, but only amongst a small group of people. You all get the chance to execute on it.

Re: Ideas are not worthless

#37
Successful Business = Idea * 1 to 50 years hard work.

When you compare the hour to think up the idea to the work required, there's no comparison. Worse, there's no shortage of ideas--they're nearly infinite, which, in supply and demand terms means their value approaches 0. This does not mean that some ideas are not better than others, only that their economic value is still generally $0.

Re: Ideas are not worthless

#38

The sentiment that ideas are worthless without execution is generally true. This can be easily explained, as "execution" can be broken down into two components: actions, and details. Action is obvious: no action, no product. Details, well, are "where the devil is." A really good idea will include enough details, that it spills over into "execution." It's not just an idea-market. It's an idea-market where people submi…

Effectively, what you're saying is "fuzzy" ideas have low value, and we would end up with market for full business plans.

Pretty much, yes. Amusingly, language is "fuzzy" by nature, which is why human-human communication is so verbose. So the word "ideas" has debatable meaning. What you call an idea, I may call a whole business plan, or vice verse, or some other combination of things.

Aside of that, someone indeed has created a "business plan" market website. I don't remember what it's called, but if you can't find it, I can try fishing it out.

Re: Ideas are not worthless

#39
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Why are YC companies so secretive before they launch? If ideas are worthless, why not tell the world what they do (and start getting feedback sooner)? This alone, for me, proves that ideas are not worthless.

I think the fear is of other companies executing on the same idea, rather than just "knowing" the idea.
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