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Re: Ask HN: How would you turn Twitter around?

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Let people pay $1/month to raise their limit to 280 characters per message. http://blog.zorinaq.com/revenue-idea-for-twitter-1-per-month... Imagine a heated discussion on Twitter... how many would pay $1/month to be able to communicate their points more clearly? Preemptive reply: no, nobody reads Twitter over SMS anymore.

> how many would pay $1/month to be able to communicate their points more clearly? My guess is less than 10,000.

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Re: Ask HN: How would you turn Twitter around?

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Twitter is a dumb pipe for notifications. It's slightly more than the content equivalent of a bell going off when something interesting happens. Non-conversation twitter posts are mostly references to somewhere else with a longer form, and the conversation tweets are hard to follow.

If these things were decoupled, and a non-human readable version was introduced, Twitter could become a defacto real-ish-time pub-sub, message bus for web applications tied to users (instead of ips). I could sit at any machine, anywhere, and my notification widget would get notifications for all sorts of events. Or it could power internet game matchmaking, or I could subscribe to reminders and have them scheduled and sent out to me wherever I am rather than having to tie those things to my device or my calendaring app or whatever. e.g. I could ask the local bbq competition to tweet-notify me when the next competition is coming up and I'd just get pinged when it happened instead of getting blasted by spam and or having to remember to put it into my calendar and/or having to remember to read my twitter feed and happen to catch the notice.

How about sub with parameters, only send me a deal making coupon notice if it's for these restaurants and under $50? Okay, I bought some, now I'm unsubscribing for now.

Let me write some tools on my own to tap the notification feeds and build some home-spun IFTTT stuff. Like maybe I sub to a local meetup group, tell everybody I'm putting a hike together but won't go unless I get 5 other people to go, and then I don't get notified until I get a quorum. If I don't by a certain date auto-send out a cancel-the-hike notice.

Conversations should be decoupled and turned into a web-based IM (same character limits) but with easy references to human readable notifications and machine-readable notifications.

Charge $10/year and guarantee a spam-free communication and notification service for you and all your devices.

Re: Ask HN: How would you turn Twitter around?

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My greatest problem with twitter is that those whose who have something worth saying tend to talk an awful lot less than those with nothing to say. I want twitter to be a feed of thoughts an opinions from people I respect, or important updates from companies I'm interested in. I see a secondary value from twitter by people contributing to a conversation around an event, be that a sports game, a site outage, a traffic…

>I want twitter to be a feed of thoughts an opinions from people I respect, or important updates from companies I'm interested in.

That's EXACTLY what is is for me... because I only follow people I respect and companies I'm interested in.

Re: Ask HN: How would you turn Twitter around?

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Refusing to associate with people is not "censorship" of ideas or anything else. Damaging, abusive people can be kicked out of one's place of business and it ain't a problem . I will not cede the ground of basic language to protofascists and you shouldn't either.

So you see it as protofascism to allow such speech (presuming I understood your last paragraph). grandalf sees blocking that speech as protofascism (more or less - he doesn't use that word). I agree with you that the speech in question is horrific - something any civilized person should be ashamed of having thought, let alone said. But I still side with grandalf on this. Prohibiting speech as if it were violence - no…

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Re: Ask HN: How would you turn Twitter around?

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Foursquare managed to do this by migrating the original functionality to Swarm and pivoting the flagship product to something more monetizable. Arguably it saved the company from going under while still enabling the original functionality for those who wanted to use it. FWIW I'm not a sportsball fan either, but you can't argue that those of us with MS-DOS and Fidonet are in the minority. Sport is a super-majority con…

Did they actually manage that transition, though? I haven't heard anyone talk about Foursquare in years. My entire social circle effectively ran itself via Dodgeball when that was active; many of us remembered it fondly enough to give Foursquare a try, after Dodgeball's founders came back out of Google purgatory. It quickly became obvious that they really just wanted to become a cheap Yelp knockoff, though, and we al…

I just looked at my cell phone and there's a notification of 9 friends checking in on Swarm - most of them early fellow-dodgeball users.

YMMV but most of my friends who were hardcore users switched over to Swarm upon the pivot. The migration was automatic btw - Foursquare told you in the app that checkins were no longer supported and offered easy install of Swarm with the same login credentials.

Re: Ask HN: How would you turn Twitter around?

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Refocus the company to be the Netflix of live TV, focusing on the delivery of live sports and news broadcasts while enabling fans/viewers to discuss in real time. It's a greenfield space no one else is really jumping upon yet. Focus may have turned to on-demand TV, but people still want to watch sports live, and Twitter already has acquired some of those deals as the sport franchises get more comfortable with online…

"Refocus the company to be the Netflix of live TV, focusing on the delivery of live sports and news broadcasts while enabling fans/viewers to discuss in real time." I didn't feel like their experiments in live broadcasting NFL games drew a large audience last year. I think twitter offers sports fans a solid mobile experience(checking real-time reactions from other athletes and sports fans) while watching the game on…

"How do you get a group of people to watch a sports/political event on twitter and discuss in real-time?" Via friend lists. If all your friends are watching the game and tweeting at the same time then you are discussing the game with them

"the switching costs for the user have to be reduced" The rise of smart TVs with apps will lead to ever easier delivery of streamed programming to traditional mediums such as TV, while also opening new viewing experiences on mobile, tablet and computer.

Re: Ask HN: How would you turn Twitter around?

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Only show me content that's been re-tweeted more than X times, where X is something that I can set.

I don't want to read about what somebody had for lunch and I wouldn't expect it to be re-tweeted. But something thoughtful or interesting or funny would be.

Yes, there would be problems with fake accounts re-tweeting but that should be solvable.

Re: Ask HN: How would you turn Twitter around?

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The very first Twitter clone I remember came up with the killer feature - infinitely long Tweets. How many times did I hear this dumb idea? It is not a sandwich, longer does not mean better! The scarce resource is not the number of electrons you send, the scarce resource is the attention of the reader.

Why is exactly 140 still the right length? Why not 145, or 73, or 280? Answer cannot contain words "always", "traditional", or "nostalgia". There's a large distance between 140 and infinitely long.

>Why is exactly 140 still the right length? Why not 145, or 73, or 280?

Why are youtube videos mostly 5 to 7 minutes? Why are pop songs 3 minutes long? Why are sitcoms 30 minutes long?

Forms of expression are defined by their constraints. I think of twitter's relationship to prose as analogous to a haiku.

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