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Re: YouTube TV

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Post by kgermino »

Tiksi wrote: post #95
halayli wrote: post #15

Being asked for a zip code shows that not even youtube is able to change the old broadcasting business model. The day will come when TV streaming businesses takes over and removes the virtual location barriers set by the industry.

My guess is they're asking for a zip code to see in which areas there's enough demand to negotiate with local news stations. I know a few people that only keep cable because of the local news stations.

Why would you keep cable just for local news? Just hook up an antenna and your done for $20 one time.

Re: YouTube TV

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Post by aesthetics1 »

Brendinooo wrote: post #72

"NBA Basketball on Fox Sports Regional Networks" - Would this would be a bit of a coup for YouTube? My regional sports network doesn't have any streaming options; not sure if other markets are more liberal with this. Also, that wording...are they getting the whole regional network or just the NBA basketball?

If this gets around the blackouts, sign me up. Something legal and convenient... This is the way to gain back lost ground on the cord-cutters, and the reason we left Dish/Comcast/etc in droves in the first place. It is simply too complicated or inconvenient to legally get to the different types of entertainment I am interested in viewing.

On the contrary, I can see this going down the path where I am back up to $100/month for entertainment between Netflix, Hulu, YouTube TV, etc.

Re: YouTube TV

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Post by rubicon33 »

goda90 wrote: post #88
rubicon33 wrote: post #76

When am I going to be able to choose my channels on an individual, channel by channel basis, and then receive a total cost based on those channels? If I want ONLY the Science channel, then I should be able to purchase JUST the science channel for like, $5/mo.

I doubt the effort will gain them significantly more customers. If they charge $35 for 10 channels, but you can get 1 channel for $5, most people will see the 10 for $35 as a better deal. Unless their per channel price were equal to (bundle price)/(number of channels in bundle), then very few people would go that route.

Hmm really? I guess I'm among the minority on this one then. There's really only a few channels I'm interested in, that I can't get online. I'd gladly pay $10 for 2 channels rather than $35 for 10... because I certainly won't be watching the other 8 channels.

Re: YouTube TV

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Post by bitmapbrother »

IanDrake wrote: post #118
bitmapbrother wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Cable only channels in addition to OTA channels 2. Unlimited DVR 3. 6 accounts to possibly share.

Thanks. I missed point 1 and 3. Point 2 has almost no value these days unless you don't have Hulu/Amazon/Netflix, which I guess some people don't. I watched commercial TV for the first time in a few years the other day and lost interest in what I was watching because of it. I don't think I can go back now.

Point 2 is extremely valuable if you watch live stuff. I often DVR live shows and sporting events and then start watching them 30-60 min later just to fast forward through the commercials.

Re: YouTube TV

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Post by Tiksi »

kgermino wrote: post #121
Tiksi wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess is they're asking for a zip code to see in which areas there's enough demand to negotiate with local news stations. I know a few people that only keep cable because of the local news stations.

Why would you keep cable just for local news? Just hook up an antenna and your done for $20 one time.

That works if you're close enough to pick anything up. Where I live, I can get OTA hdtv no problem, with a piece of wire for an antenna indoors. Where my parents live they can pick up a single channel with a directional Yagi mounted on the roof. (Not an exaggeration, we tried)

Re: YouTube TV

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Post by snuxoll »

untog wrote: post #99
riskable wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No kidding. The moment I saw the zip code requirement I knew it was going to be pointless. Not only that but $35? Come on. There's not $35 worth of programming there. It's just the same old dumbed down broadcast TV that has been in decline for over a decade. Compared to Netflix, Amazon, and even YouTube shows ABC, NBC, Fox et al just plain suck. As proof, after watching an awesome trailer for some new sci-fi show you…

Judging by how much people currently pay for cable, there is more than $35/mo worth of programming there. Perhaps not to you, but that just means you aren't the customer for this product. > As proof, after watching an awesome trailer for some new sci-fi show you may be totally pumped up to watch it until at the end when they announce, "only on ABC!" Legion is pretty good. Legion is on FX. FX is on YouTube TV. To be h…

PlayStation Vue has packages for $35/mo that include FOX, ABC, etc plus a healthy selection of channels not available OTA (including FX, etc).

YouTube's marketing here is pretty crappy, but if they're actually trying to just sell access to OTA network content for $35/mo they are insane.

Re: YouTube TV

#128

Post by snuxoll »

kristofferR wrote: post #86

"Unlimited cloud DVR" seems really pointless. Why not just save everything, as it airs, in a central archive that the users can browse at their leisure instead? It also seems to mean that you can't rewind channels you weren't watching, that you manually have to record stuff yourself. Really backwards of Google if my assumptions are correct. It seems weird that Google aren't able to create/negotiate something relevant…

Because the TV networks don't want that, see: many of them opting out of the 3-day replay functionality on Sling. I'm sure Google does keep one copy of every show users have chosen to "record" instead of duplicating it, but networks don't want people just being able to access an entire series without effort (I'm guessing just because they are money-loving jackasses).

Re: YouTube TV

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Post by bearcobra »

throwaway287391 wrote: post #115
bearcobra wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The screenshots show channels like ESPN, USA, and FXX.

Kind of bizarre that they decided to highlight the free OTA networks most prominently in their marketing, when it's actually a cable replacement (or at least a partial one).

With the zip code request I wonder if they will be making local channels a key selling point. Service like Sling TV and DirecTV Now don't do a great job of handling the networks.

Re: YouTube TV

#130

Post by harigov »

fryguy wrote: post #91
joshuamorton wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, but from my perspective as a consumer, at least right now, the only service I'm even remotely interested in is YTTV, and the reverse would be even worse. If I didn't want the YTTV package, there's no way I'd pay $40/mo for play music or whatever. A la carte models are a lot more efficient, the reason I don't like cable (and comcast) is because of bundled services, why on earth would I want to move to another,…

Think about it this way. Netflix wanted to separate their DVD and streaming into separate companies, so there would be different websites for each. Consumers complained about that so much that they changed their mind and stayed with one. If Google/YouTube started with a single product and broken it out like it is now, people I think would rightly complain. I think the most egregious thing is music, rather than YouTub…

I would say - just brand them as completely different services unless they are totally dependent. Just because movies are served on top of YouTube doesn't necessarily mean that they literally have to be part of YouTube website. Why not a website like "MovieTube" with its own website and brand? It makes YouTube a single focused website intended to find any/all random videos on internet and people understand when they hear "MovieTube". With YouTube Red, YouTube TV, YouTube Live, YouTube Movies, etc., it is hard to remember which is what.
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