Annotation is now a web standard • Hacker News Board

Re: Annotation is now a web standard

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Post by skybrian » Tue, Feb 28, 2017, 10:43 PM UTC

deevolution wrote: post #110

skybrian wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe 4chan will have fun with it for a while, and then everyone else will decide it's a cesspit and turn it off? I don't see anything in the proposal about how comments get moderated. In the meantime, we can keep using Hacker News.

Should the author have the privelage of moderating their comments? They could shave off all the comments that threaten the authors argument. Suddenly its become a single sided debate.

Debates don't have to happen on the original website. We have debates about all sorts of web pages on Hacker News (and Reddit, and Twitter, and so on), and it works out fine. Everyone knows how this works.

Authors can moderate what appears on the same web page (their own site's comments, if any) but not what appears in other places (Twitter, Reddit, Hacker News, and so on).

Putting comments from a different community on the same page as the original article is a mashup of sorts; you're mixing content from different places. This can create confusion.

It seems like if such mashups exist, they should have their own URL? Suppose that when following a link from Hacker News, you get a web page with Hacker News annotations.

What URL should that be? Maybe it should go on ycombinator.com, sort of like when you embed a YouTube video.

Re: Annotation is now a web standard

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Post by kakarot » Tue, Feb 28, 2017, 11:19 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #145

tyingq wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It increases the discoverability significantly. The negative information or spam that's not on your site is suddenly...on your site. It's like making it mandatory for restaurants to have a live updating Yelp! review display scrolling at the front door. (assuming I understand the proposal correctly...I didn't see much control there for website owners)

> It's like making it mandatory for restaurants to have a live updating Yelp! review display scrolling at the front door. It's more like AR technology existing and allowing consumers to have any review source they choose accessible and popping up live reviews as they walk by businesses (actually, without the actual AR part, mobile virtual assistance like Google Now provide that today based on geolocation, so much it'…

It's more about preventing offensive remarks than honest critical reviews.

Re: Annotation is now a web standard

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Post by SZJX » Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 9:40 PM UTC

I've been wanting this for ages. Didn't have time to get down to implement it myself. Hopefully somebody can finally implement it well. Guess one difficulty is commercial model. But just as Pocket and Instapaper were acquired for their data, hopefully this company (or anybody out there) can do a similar thing.

Re: Annotation is now a web standard

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Post by taiwan_on » Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 4:35 PM UTC

gaxun wrote: post #12

I spent about 40 hours in December and January implementing a browser extension for Chrome and a server that speak the web annotation protocol and use the web annotation data model in this specification. It was very easy to pass the tests the W3C working group used to verify that they had two working implementations of the data model and protocol. Most of the test default to passing if the specified tag is not presen…

I've had this exact same urge for years now and have had a couple of false starts at tackling the issue. Glad to see 1) I wasn't the only one wanting to make those simple copy edits and 2) someone followed it through and did something about it.