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Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by jeffasinger »

thenewregiment2 wrote: post #803
cperciva wrote: post #787

S3 is currently (22:00 UTC) back up. The timeline, as observed by Tarsnap: First InternalError response from S3: 17:37:29 Last successful request: 17:37:32 S3 switches from 100% InternalError responses to 503 responses: 17:37:56 S3 switches from 503 responses back to InternalError responses: 20:34:36 First successful request: 20:35:50 Most GET requests succeeding: ~21:03 Most PUT requests succeeding: ~21:52

no. soundcloud uses aws s3. it is still down. this is false information.

There are other Amazon services that were affected. For example, we're still not seeing auto scaling groups working correctly.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by eknkc »

JPKab wrote: post #753
boulos wrote: post #735

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud. Apologies if you find this to be in poor taste, but GCS directly supports the S3 XML API (including v4): https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/interoperability and has easy to use multi-regional support at a fraction of the cost of what it would take on AWS. I directly point my NAS box at home to GCS instead of S3 (sadly having to modify the little PHP client code to point it to st…

I've used both Google Cloud and AWS, and as of a year or so ago, I'm a Google Cloud convert. (Before that, you guys didn't at all have your shit together when it came to customer support) It's not in bad taste, despite other comments saying otherwise. We need to recognize that competition is good, and Amazon isn't the answer to everything.

We were on GCP for around a year, it was my decision I really wanted to love GCP and I initially did. But we recently switched to AWS.

I think there is little GCP does better than AWS. Pricing is better on paper, but performance per buck seems to be on par. Stability is a lot worse on GCP, and I don't just mean service outages like this one (which they had their fair share) but also individual issues like instances slowing down or network acting up randomly. Also lack of service offerings like no PostgreSQL, functions never leaving alpha, no hosted redis clusters etc... Support is also too expensive compared to AWS.

Management interfaces are better on GCP and sustained use discount is a big step up against AWS reservations. Otherwise, I think AWS works better.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by twakefield »

boulos wrote: post #735

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud. Apologies if you find this to be in poor taste, but GCS directly supports the S3 XML API (including v4): https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/interoperability and has easy to use multi-regional support at a fraction of the cost of what it would take on AWS. I directly point my NAS box at home to GCS instead of S3 (sadly having to modify the little PHP client code to point it to st…

The brilliance of open sourcing Borg (aka Kubernetes) is evident in times like these. We[0] are seeing more and more SaaS companies abstract away their dependencies on AWS or any particular cloud provider with Kubernetes.

Managing stateful services is still difficult but we are starting to see paths forward [1] and the community's velocity is remarkable.

K8s seems to be the wolf in sheep's clothing that will break AWS' virtual monopoly on IaaS.

[0] We (gravitational.com) help companies go "multi-region" or on-prem using Kubernetes as a portable run-time.

[1] Some interesting projects from this comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13738916)

* Postgres automation for Kubernetes deployments https://github.com/sorintlab/stolon

* Automation for operating the Etcd cluster:https://github.com/coreos/etcd-operator

* Kubernetes-native deployment of Ceph: https://rook.io/

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by espeed »

thenewregiment2 wrote: post #807
ta_wh wrote: post #805

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"[RESOLVED] Increased Error Rates Update at 2:08 PM PST: As of 1:49 PM PST, we are fully recovered for operations for adding new objects in S3, which was our last operation showing a high error rate. The Amazon S3 service is operating normally." https://status.aws.amazon.com/

oh the famous downvote for the smear campaign. just admit it.

Claiming a statement is false when it's demonstrably true is something that will likely get downvoted every time. It's misleading to others and fills the board with noise.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by angry-hacker »

dokument wrote: post #265
ruchit47 wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If its static site, put it anywhere and just cache it with Cloudflare. (turn on the always on feature)

You also get your ssl sessions backed up on global webcaches as an added feature.

What does it mean?

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by gr2020 »

boulos wrote: post #799
mbrumlow wrote: post #797

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your NAS box doing with S3/GCS ?

Remote backup (Synology). I've asked them more than once to directly support GCS, or even just to accept my damn patch ;).

Are you using Hyper Backup? That seems to support S3-compatible destinations, including GCS, at least in DSM 6.1 -

https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/help/HyperB...

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by greglindahl »

wildmusings wrote: post #394
j2kun wrote: post #381

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Amazon, everything is on fire. you are not fooling anyone Fun story, when I was an intern at Amazon there was actually a warehouse fire. The result was a lot of manual database entry updating as products were determined to be destroyed or still fit for sale.

I'm curious about what happened to products that were no longer fit for sale, but still fit for use. Do you recall?

There are businesses that specialize in remaindering fire-damaged goods -- mostly stuff that smells like smoke.

They showed up in my town in the early 1980s after one of our local malls had a smokey fire. They sold a bunch of stuff that came from other places, too, including a ton of 15mm miniature soldiers.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by joshontheweb »

boulos wrote: post #735

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud. Apologies if you find this to be in poor taste, but GCS directly supports the S3 XML API (including v4): https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/interoperability and has easy to use multi-regional support at a fraction of the cost of what it would take on AWS. I directly point my NAS box at home to GCS instead of S3 (sadly having to modify the little PHP client code to point it to st…

I'm in the process of moving to GCS mostly based on how byzantine the AWS setup is. All kinds of crazy unintuitive configurations and permissions. In short, AWS makes me feel stupid.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by boulos »

natbobc wrote: post #829
simonebrunozzi wrote: post #801

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I keep telling people that in my view, Google Cloud is far superior to AWS from a technical standpoint. Most people don't believe me... Yet. I guess it will change soon.

Google Cloud is the Betamax of cloud... while it might be technically superior it's not the only factor to consider. :)

Aww... that seems a little early to call ;).

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by joshontheweb »

natbobc wrote: post #829
simonebrunozzi wrote: post #801

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep telling people that in my view, Google Cloud is far superior to AWS from a technical standpoint. Most people don't believe me... Yet. I guess it will change soon.

Google Cloud is the Betamax of cloud... while it might be technically superior it's not the only factor to consider. :)

What other factors make it doomed for failure like betamax?
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