Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

YouTube TV

tv.youtube.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

11–20 of 292 posts

Re: YouTube TV

#11

Post by zaroth »

colinbartlett wrote: post #6

Is this similar to Direct TV Now[1]? Both of these services seem like an interesting step forward, but then, who really wants to watch live TV anymore, besides sports fans? The whole idea of watching something at a specific time that it's aired just seems unimaginable to me after years of on demand streaming. Not to mention commercial breaks. 1. https://directvnow.com/

Completely agree. Maybe 10 times a year I watch live TV, otherwise I want to choose a show and binge on episodes on demand. Unfortunately, the legal situation around licensing I think allows for "unlimited DVR" but not actually just an on-demand episode list. You have to setup your "own" recording of the episode, and your bits can be stored in the cloud for you. I'm not sure even if de-duplicating the bits runs into trouble.

Re: YouTube TV

#12

Post by Eridrus »

rajathagasthya wrote: post #5

Very interesting. It's a shame Apple shied away from providing TV streaming.

I don't think Apple shied away from it so much as they assumed their weight in the consumer space would be important and acted like dicks.

Re: YouTube TV

#13

Post by harigov »

tekklloneer wrote: post #10
harigov wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we started out with a Netflix like video hosting platform and then someone launches a live, continuously running, and a curated-list-of-shows platform, everyone would consider that as a mind-blowing "innovation". I guess some people do want to watch live-tv, simplifies the question of "what to watch next".

Basically, synced playlists? That's a trivial innovation that was done on tons of 3rd party sites after youtube launched. I don't think it's mind blowing, I think it's a neat feature compared to on-demand, which I think is the gold standard experience.

No, synced playlists that are curated by professionals, backed by millions of dollars of budget. I wouldn't consider that as mind-blowing either. It's a sarcastic comment on reactions from the valley about what they consider as an innovation.

Re: YouTube TV

#14

Post by sachinag »

You announce this on February 28 without TBS, TNT, or truTV? I get that Turner had you, but come on. Wait until April to announce if you're not gonna have them. Or even until June, when the NBA conference finals are over.

Re: YouTube TV

#15

Post by halayli »

Being asked for a zip code shows that not even youtube is able to change the old broadcasting business model.

The day will come when TV streaming businesses takes over and removes the virtual location barriers set by the industry.

Re: YouTube TV

#16

Post by joshuamorton »

harigov wrote: post #9
tombert wrote: post #4

This is cool, though part of the reason I like things like Hulu Plus is that I don't have to worry about commercials, and it's literally a third of the price. I do find it interesting though; Youtube/Google is taking all the steps to be the next Time Warner or Comcast it seems. I wonder if this proves that that industry isn't impossible to break into.

The biggest problem with Google is their branding. They launched so many services - Google Music, Youtube Red, Youtube TV, Youtube Live, Hangouts Live, etc., it's just impossible to keep up on what they are actually trying to do. I am sure they have far less number of customers on any of these individual services than if they would have had if these were independent companies. They do everything and nothing they do r…

(am googler, but don't work with any of the mentioned products)

Keep in mind that all of these products in many cases compete with other companies (music -> spotify, apple, ytr -> netflix/hulu originals, kinda, YTL -> twitch, YTTV -> cable providers). I, as a consumer, wouldn't want these things to all be bundled. I use spotify for my music, and I don't want to have to pay for Play Music or youtube red unless I use those services.

I can't even imagine how some kind of "unified google media" thing would work.

Re: YouTube TV

#17

Post by yurisagalov »

zaroth wrote: post #11
colinbartlett wrote: post #6

Is this similar to Direct TV Now[1]? Both of these services seem like an interesting step forward, but then, who really wants to watch live TV anymore, besides sports fans? The whole idea of watching something at a specific time that it's aired just seems unimaginable to me after years of on demand streaming. Not to mention commercial breaks. 1. https://directvnow.com/

Completely agree. Maybe 10 times a year I watch live TV, otherwise I want to choose a show and binge on episodes on demand. Unfortunately, the legal situation around licensing I think allows for "unlimited DVR" but not actually just an on-demand episode list. You have to setup your "own" recording of the episode, and your bits can be stored in the cloud for you. I'm not sure even if de-duplicating the bits runs into…

last time I've had this conversation with cable execs, it was explained to me that even just de-duping the bits does in fact run into trouble. They have to store a complete copy for you, for your personal use.

Re: YouTube TV

#20

Post by turnip123942 »

halayli wrote: post #15

Being asked for a zip code shows that not even youtube is able to change the old broadcasting business model. The day will come when TV streaming businesses takes over and removes the virtual location barriers set by the industry.

It could be to gather data to be able to negotiate deals with local TV providers. Get an idea of what the demand in a market is and go from there.
Post reply on HN