Wasn't this in reaction to the story that Homeland Security had asked the question to a programmer entering the US? I don't know how this was extrapolated to a broken job interview process.
can you share a link?
Programmers are confessing their sins to protest a broken job interview process
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#22Wasn't this in reaction to the story that Homeland Security had asked the question to a programmer entering the US? I don't know how this was extrapolated to a broken job interview process.
I thought DHH posted this before the guy who had border problems.
But well, I only had one strange interview where I had to programm Tetris and failed. In most interviews I just got asked, if I could do the job...
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#23Wasn't this in reaction to the story that Homeland Security had asked the question to a programmer entering the US? I don't know how this was extrapolated to a broken job interview process.
Do you have a reference? This would be interesting to read about.
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#25> “Whiteboard” interviews are widely hated. They also discriminate against people who are already underrepresented in the field. I don't particularly like whiteboard interviews. How can they be discrimination if the expectations are laid out and are such that anyone can reasonably practice to reach them. I understand you can create a test that is deliberately discriminatory (e.g. voting tests). You can create a test…
underrepresented candidates have been acing our whiteboard interviews, and getting hired.
The whole meme is so stupid I want to cry.
"Asking field-relevant questions with objective answers is discriminatory, instead just have a chat. "
Mother of god.
Yes I understand the limitations and downsides of whiteboard questions, and in fact in future I'm thinking I won't do them on white boards anymore. But I'll still be asking people who claim to be programmers to do some basic programming before I hire them.
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#26Whiteboard coding questions are useful as a baseline test of preparedness.
You don't need to be a genius to solve them. You just need to spend some time practicing them and reading cracking the code interview(OR you need to be a recent college graduate who did well in their classes).
I agree that the super difficult Google style questions are silly, but if an engineer can't solve an easy-mid level difficulty whiteboard question (For example, I usually ask something like, "traverse/print a tree"), well... my response to them is why didn't you prepare for it?
You really should have known that you were going to be asked to do something like this, and you didn't even bother to prepare for the easy stuff.
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#27To guys in SV: are managers, scrum masters, product owners etc also whiteboarded during interview??
(disclaimer) From my freelance experience in EU and the amount of "fun & satisfaction" from a the actual work is inversely proportional to the amount of drilling and grilling during interview.
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#28Reminds me of http://rejected.us/
literally copy and paste from it
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#29Liz's recent tweets on the subject have struck close to home and have so much insight. https://twitter.com/feministy/status/836407798476881920
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#30Somehow I still don't buy that dhh would fail to implement Bubble Sort.