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Re: I am an Uber survivor

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Post by tempodox »

uptownfunk wrote: post #183
leggomylibro wrote: post #132

>Travis is well known to protect high performing team leaders no matter how abusive they are towards their employees. The HR team was known to be deftly[sic] afraid of Travis’s tendency to blame and ridicule the women and yell at HR whenever they went in with complaints of abuse. I heard about Travis personally congratulating Mike#2 for meeting strict deadlines months after I complained to HR about my abuse. This is…

Maybe I've watched too much Suits and The Good Wife, but it just seems that it's all futile. They're a huge corp, if you file suit against them they'll hit back harder with bigger and badder lawyers, and you either settle out of court, or play the lotto with the court system and try your hand at a judgement with whatever lawyers you can afford. It's really sad how stacked the odds seem.

Get Peter Thiel on your side. He used the courts to kill Gawker.

Re: I am an Uber survivor

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Post by balladeer »

roystonvassey wrote: post #665
DannyBee wrote: post #638

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Why is this being modded down? It's the truth. Big companies almost always come out on top in trials because they can afford the best lawyers, and they can afford to game the system to bankrupt their opponents by filing never-ending motions to delay and other tactics which increase the legal costs to the opponent. You're almost never going to get a positive result if you're a rank-and-file employee; your best course…

It probably is quite different in the States but in my country, this is very true. If you are a lone individual fighting a legal case against a large organization, chances are you will be worn down by years of litigation that often appears endless. To dissuade litigants even further, cases are filed in far-off remote outposts that make such endeavors cost-prohibitive even further [1, for e.g.]. [1] http://www.livemin…

Add on top of this how easy it is to buy law enforcements here (including judges). It's like a very fair and open market. Whoever pays more gets the favour. That's exactly how he got that order passed in a district court (which is not even a high court - apex court of a state, let alone the Supreme Court - nation's apex court) by a judge who probably heard the word Internet for the sixth time in his entire life and the term "webpage" I am sure for the first time and was paid well for issuing the order.

Re: I am an Uber survivor

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Post by balladeer »

tempodox wrote: post #781
uptownfunk wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I've watched too much Suits and The Good Wife, but it just seems that it's all futile. They're a huge corp, if you file suit against them they'll hit back harder with bigger and badder lawyers, and you either settle out of court, or play the lotto with the court system and try your hand at a judgement with whatever lawyers you can afford. It's really sad how stacked the odds seem.

Get Peter Thiel on your side. He used the courts to kill Gawker.

Thiel has called Uber the most ethically challenged company[1]. But I think he's a Lyft investor. So maybe that's why?

On the other hand they both seem to get along really well with the current US president.

[1] http://time.com/3593701/peter-thiel-uber/

Re: I am an Uber survivor

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Post by balladeer »

Scoundreller wrote: post #545
8fGTBjZxBcHq wrote: post #446

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Nah they need to fail. Lyft or another competitor would soak up the drivers immediately, a huge number of them already drive for both. Silicon valley alums of a top tech company are not going to be hurting for jobs in the near future. It sets the example that bullshit like this is not workable and will bring you down. There are no net downsides to uber falling.

> There's plenty of competitors that would love to fill that hole. Maybe in the US. Elsewhere (e.g. Toronto), it's Uber or taxi.

Nope. Speaking from India it's Ola or "Uber or something else" in big cities and Ola or something else in other cities or towns.

In fact there are many smaller startups that keep coming and going. Bikes, autos, cabs. In fact there was a bus startup too that failed just because it didn't have money to play against the system.

There are rumours of a huge business house (with pretty much endless supply of money and extremely easy access to the central Govt - in fact the PM on a personal level) entering the market.

Re: I am an Uber survivor

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Post by nommm-nommm »

voodooranger wrote: post #624

I consider the HN community to be one of the most thoughtful I've found on the web, yet am stunned by how quickly a righteous mob is formed based on an anonymous, cartoonish, and IMO barely plausible account of what it's like to work for a large US tech company. Having spent years working at multiple SV tech companies, where even the slightest tinge of a racist or sexist affront would land you in an office in front o…

Yes, people say racists and sexist and mean things at work. Just because you haven't personally seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I've seen it, personally.

Re: I am an Uber survivor

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Post by nommm-nommm »

harryh wrote: post #31

Why would someone write an anonymous blog post but then declare that they are: 1) A woman in her late 20s 2) Who used to work at Uber in Engineering working on database and networking scalability 3) Went to a top private college 4) has a Masters in Information Systems 5) previous to Uber worked as a Data Analyst in a tech company in the Midwest and left when it was acquired by a Chinese firm 6) Is 5 foot 7 Caucasian…

She put enough information so that the parties relevant would be able to identify all the actors but the parties not involved can't. That's not strange - she wants to tell her story and have it attached to her by identity but not name.

Re: I am an Uber survivor

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Post by iopq »

eropple wrote: post #350
jastingo wrote: post #257

I'm not in the business of defending Uber - quite the contrary - but reading through the comments it seems that most people are assuming that this post by an anonymous person is 100% true. These types of posts are worrying to me. Why could this post not have been crafted by someone at Lyft? Or one of Uber's many other detractors? Given the PR nightmare that Uber is in why not pile on while the public seems primed for…

To be frank? Uber gets the benefit of the doubt when they demonstrate that they've earned it. Every bit of smoke I have seen, both online and in my social circles, has had fire behind it. Every one , without exception. So I'm going to believe this until I have a compelling reason not to, and "but it could be fake" isn't one.

Just because every time you personally saw fire behind smoke doesn't mean that in the future this will hold.

Re: I am an Uber survivor

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Post by iopq »

lenkite wrote: post #695
Tycho wrote: post #597

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I wouldn't be surprised if this was fake. It seemed to hit on too many talking points and buzzwords. It has a "too good to be true" feel to it.

I didn't see any buzzwords or liberal talking points in this article. Could you provide specifics ? This article feels exactly as it would be written by a scared and angry person. Not everyone is cool,(as in calm headed) brilliant and courageous as Fowler. Fowler had the smarts, strength and level headedness to keep proof and you get the strong feeling that she has kept more proof hidden and ready to use as ammunitio…

Muh wage gap. Muh partiarchy.

It's cringy reading.

Re: I am an Uber survivor

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Post by nommm-nommm »

toephu2 wrote: post #315
soheil wrote: post #179

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Did a search of all current/past Uber employees based on public data mainly from LI, found only 6 people with those degrees and none were female. Did another search for people who worked as Data Analyst and worked at Uber came up with 6 different people again all male. As other answers suggest the information could be twisted, but definitely not "slightly".

Not everyone is on LinkedIn.

Yeah, lets be real here. The idea that all (or even most) current and past Uber employees are findable on LinkedIn is laughable at best.

if you went looking for my work history you wouldn't find it, it's not documented anywhere public. You would have to have access to some completely internal/non public databases.

Even if she did have a LinkedIn, she'd probably just leave Uber off of it.

Re: I am an Uber survivor

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Post by bohn8EeY »

Joo2eiyu wrote: post #778
arthur_pryor wrote: post #755

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i'm not defending linus' management style, but it is a significantly worse crime in my book to be sexist/racist abusive or a sexual harasser than it is to be a garden variety verbally abusive boss who is abusive solely based on and in relation to the quality of work performed. i suspect many others feel similarly.

To judge the seriousness of a crime based on the victims gender is sexist. There is no garden variety abuse, and if there were than it means we have accepted abuse as normal as long the victim is not of the protected gender.

A nice example of why some opinions are safe to express on HN and others aren't. Disagreement on "significantly worse crime to be sexist/racist abusiver than it is to be a garden variety verbally abuser" is not welcome.
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