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Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by dredmorbius »

bartvk wrote: post #375
dredmorbius wrote: post #373

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The lack of a true, independent, freestanding multimedia application which can handle this sort of thing -- building and managing queues, interrupting, deleting, sorting, etc. -- puzzles me. The browser is such an obviously poor place to stick A/V. Other than, of course, the fact that advertisers slobber over cramming every more crap down some "channel" or other.

Well, Google has a history of preferring HTML above all other interfaces. Only when someone else comes along and offers a better native interface, they jump in. Thank god there's a native iOS/Android client.

It's not the transport that's the problem, it's the app.

Meredith L. Patterson has addressed the point of Port 80 (or 443) adequately. For the time being, we're locked into that.

My point is that handing of A/V material to a dedicated AV app is, all else considered, probably optimal. It's the 4th browser replacement mentioned in my "Tabbed Browsing" rant, elsewhere in this thread.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by mtrycz »

randkyp wrote: post #344
hobarrera wrote: post #309

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Is there any official source for this?

I don't think this counts as official, but a Mozilla employee replied to a Reddit comment stating that it'll be open source too. https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/5wio45/mozilla_acq... [edit] also nnethercote is a Mozilla employee :)

Does that mean I can run my own pocket server at home? That'd be neat and useful, I don't need any more profiling as is.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by dredmorbius »

Sylos wrote: post #379
dredmorbius wrote: post #327

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Source?

I think, he was mostly joking, but it might actually be the case. Sounds like they want to keep the Pocket company intact as it is, just as a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Mozilla Corporation and with everything open-sourced. So, Pocket as a company should continue to try to make a revenue and if they do, that revenue goes upwards into the Mozilla Corporation (and from there upwards into the Mozilla Foundation, if t…

There were references elsewhere in the thread to comments by Mozilla staff directly, so it appears this is true.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by Aissen »

apetresc wrote: post #32

Something I've always wished Pocket would do is download an offline copy of videos I add to the list (using, say, youtube-dl [1]), so I can watch them on the subway, etc. But they never did this, presumably either for legal reasons, or because it was a giant waste of bandwidth considering a huge percentage of Pocketed articles never get read. Now that Mozilla is promising to open-source this, I eagerly await adding t…

There are many apps that do that. A Pocket competitor, Spool, used to that. It was then acqui-hired by Facebook and shutdown. At least they had the decency of sending us our data by email.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by vertex-four »

icebraining wrote: post #359
flukus wrote: post #297

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Probably not. Developers are fickle and few like to do maintenance only work. So even if it's still getting security patches they are likely to be losing the institutional knowledge to continue that in future, not to mention keeping up with things like API changes for gmail integration.

Which Gmail APIs? Has there been an update to IMAP that I'm not aware of?

GMail has been pushing for its custom XOAUTH2 authentication for a while, and password-based authentication can result in security warnings. Password-based authentication also doesn't support 2FA.

By the way - the IETF standardised an OAuth2 SASL mechanism (RFC 7628) a couple of years ago, no idea why GMail doesn't support it.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by nkkollaw »

My impression is that most things that Mozilla starts, they shut down.

I was following their experiments, and they shut all of them down while some of them were already working.

I used to use Thunderbird years ago, but they completely stopped working on it.

I just hope they don't kill Pocket, since I use it every day to save things to read later.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by hvidgaard »

coredog64 wrote: post #346
kibwen wrote: post #302

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> Outside of Slack Slack has a standalone app? I've only ever used the web version. What more does it do? > Discord Likewise, I never even realized Discord had a non-browser implementation. > WhatsApp I never even realized that WhatsApp had a non-mobile implementation. > they definitely need native access to local APIs Which ones? > And now they are arguably failing to push it to themselves Er, the whole point of Moz…

> Slack has a standalone app? I've only ever used the web version. What more does it do? Chew up a bunch of RAM and glitch display compositing if my experience is typical.

My slack has been running for days now, and it's humming along at 50mb.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by jhasse »

Arizhel wrote: post #159
BinaryIdiot wrote: post #106

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To be fair Thunderbird is awful. Every single time I try to find a better client I see someone suggesting "oh Thunderbird has gotten way better; give it a shot! I love it!" and every time I fall for it and it's the same slow, horrible application that I've tried again and again. I'm all for them killing it.

The problem is that there aren't exactly a lot of other great FOSS standalone email applications these days. Everything's been neglected because of webmail, and corporations' dogged insistence on Outlook. So if you think Thunderbird should be killed, what do you suggest as a replacement? It needs to be free, and run on Windows for my company to use it.

If you're using Linux, try Geary.
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