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Urinals MUST count. Assuming that women's bathrooms have more sit-down toilets than men's, we are biased. It is unfair and sexist to allow female dominated companies more than their fair share of project managers! /s
Do women's bathrooms have more sit down toilets than men's?
Mozilla Acquires Pocket
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Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
#332Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just a question on top of my head, could Mozilla make a SaaS, like a email services ( example only ), and have those money go into continuing develop Firefox. And as a non-profit entity, could they retain some profit they have as investment or cash somewhere. In case some day they run into negatives they could use those as reserves? But at the end of the day, Mozilla need some very serious management restructuring, s…
If the NFL can call themselves a nonprofit then anyone else should be able to do the same.
I think people simply aren't aware that all the major revenue associated with the NFL goes through specific teams, which are normal taxable corporations. Humorously, people also aren't aware that they gave up their tax exempt status, so I'm not sure that decision was worth it.
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
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I always thought that complaint was kind of odd. It's essentially the same as their Search input. Google/Yahoo/etc. are proprietary but Firefox lets you talk to them directly from their browser. Similarly, the code for the Pocket button (component) for where it handles the user clicking the button, along with what it does to talk to the Pocket server, was all in the open and if you build from source you could just re…
Mozilla replaced Reading List (which was client-side encrypted and theoretically self-hostable) with Pocket (which is neither). Search engines need search terms to function; Pocket uses user data to support a particular business model.
Pocket is now Free Software, which might make those elements from RL you liked possible again.
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
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> Outside of Slack Slack has a standalone app? I've only ever used the web version. What more does it do? > Discord Likewise, I never even realized Discord had a non-browser implementation. > WhatsApp I never even realized that WhatsApp had a non-mobile implementation. > they definitely need native access to local APIs Which ones? > And now they are arguably failing to push it to themselves Er, the whole point of Moz…
> Slack has a standalone app? [...] I never even realized Discord [...] I never even realized that WhatsApp [...] But that's exactly how Electron and friends got popular: they allow for web-first development. Desktop support is a bonus for people who need it. When Mozilla started working on XUL, the future of the web looked a lot like XML and fat clients. Applications would be built by desktop developers targeting th…
Maybe I'm just an old fuddy-duddy (I'm in my 20s, jfc), but I don't see how Electron's popularity is considered a given. I know plenty of people who use the given services, but none who use the desktop interfaces. VS Code is the only Electron app that I've ever seen used in the wild. Am I just hanging in the wrong crowds? Which ones should I be looking at, if so?
> It wasn't a "this is not possible today" problem
Hence "feasible" rather than "possible". :P (And conspicuously not "easy" rather than "feasible", either...)
> maybe they could have competed with Electron-style apps
I sound like a broken record by now, but I still don't see what people think Mozilla has to gain by offering a native GUI framework that people have already proven they don't want. And frankly, I think FirefoxOS, while ill-fated, was at least audacious. :P
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
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"I don't know what I'm going to do when I can't use treestyle tabs anymore. I guess move to Pale Moon." I hear ya, being in a similar boat. My hope is that Netsurf ends up being a decent contender here by the time Mozilla kills XUL. Else, hopefully TST will indeed be made possible with Firefox-specific WebExtension APIs.
TST will be possible with WebExtensions. For hard evidence, even the Add-Ons Engineering Manager is working on his own, personal vertical tabs webextension to suss out what APIs we need: https://github.com/andymckay/sidebar-tabs We may not land everything we need by the time Firefox 57 releases, but we'll get there. If we miss, you have options: you can decamp to Firefox ESR for a few months, where TST will keep work…
I've noticed (on the rare instances I'm on desktop, mostly Mac these days) that Vimperator is also borked (only parts of it seem to be functioning). That's another lifesaver to me, and whatever it takes for it to come back to life and/or an alternative to provide effectively similar functionality ... would be peachy.
If I can lure you to another bit of developer / user advocacy, a bit from about 3 years ago on the content management problem:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/256lxu/tabbed_...
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
#336I have used Pocket for the last five years or so. 99.5% of the articles I bookmark every day I never actually read. Probably should make me think why I use it at all...
1. Total articles saved. Archived. Rread.
2. Counts by tag.
3. A "times read" count. There are hot articles I hit a lot.
4. Numbering of items on page.
The lack of ANY user-focused stats or reporting on virtually any Web-based tools is ... kind of creepy, actually, given the extent user data is sliced, diced, marinated, and skewered on the provider and advertiser ends.
Back to the matter of what's read: Pocket is effectively my "vetted web". Content I've found and found at least worth a second look. The biggest problem(s) I have presently are that I cannot effectively mine that archive. Pocket's tools for searching, ordering (or unordering -- there's a strong argument for randomly accessing a stratified sample) are a hugely increasing friction point.
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
#337Pocket's post about the acquisition, referring to the main value their product brings, says, “a platform where high-quality, thoughtful content and free speech can rise above the rest.” Pocket used to have a feature aimed at surfacing high-quality content from the collection of things a user had already pocketed. They removed that feature. I was paying for their premium service before that change. After they removed…
My view is pretty much as yours: POCKET IS MY VETTED WEB. If I've saved stuff there, it's because that is shit I've already determined is worth a second look, and I want to be able to find it again.
Increasingly, when I hit my Pocket archive (3k-4k+ items, top 1% user), I find that I cannot find what I'm looking for. This negates approximately 80% of the purpose of having Pocket in the first place, and I've been giving strong thoughts to simply using it as a link dump until I can figure out how to:
1. Download the content myself.
2. Download the tags, which are the most important element.
3. Get the simplified-Web view. Web design isn't the solution, Web design is the problem.
4. Be able to search and filter specifically what I've already fetched. And filter by more options: date, website, author, tags (positive and negative filters), etc.
None of that currently exists. And it is increasingly frustrating.
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
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But if you prefer security updates from paid employees of an organization rather than volunteers, surely a commercial product rather than a free one would be more suitable for your needs?
Not necessarily. I appreciate the values for which Mozilla stands, and those values are entrenched in their products.
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
#339Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
#340Pocket's post about the acquisition, referring to the main value their product brings, says, “a platform where high-quality, thoughtful content and free speech can rise above the rest.” Pocket used to have a feature aimed at surfacing high-quality content from the collection of things a user had already pocketed. They removed that feature. I was paying for their premium service before that change. After they removed…
OK, so it's not just me imagining things. My view is pretty much as yours: POCKET IS MY VETTED WEB. If I've saved stuff there, it's because that is shit I've already determined is worth a second look, and I want to be able to find it again. Increasingly, when I hit my Pocket archive (3k-4k+ items, top 1% user), I find that I cannot find what I'm looking for. This negates approximately 80% of the purpose of having Poc…