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Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by alphapapa »

toyg wrote: post #199
wodenokoto wrote: post #16

I've always liked Pocket, but felt queasy about its integration with Firefox. I consider this a great move for a better bookmarking experience in Firefox as well as a better pocket service.

It is ridiculous though. Mozilla already had a sync infrastructure, it didn't need another service just for bookmarks, "only" a decent additional UI. To me, the whole Pocket thing always smelled of cronyism. Someone is friend with someone else, and lo, Pocket appears. People get all angry, Pocket's hockey-stick fails to materialise, and lo, Mozilla bail them out...

Not only that, but the original Read-It-Later extension did exactly that: it stored links directly in Firefox's bookmarks system in a "Read-It-Later" folder. Only later did it begin using its own, separate database.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by webwanderings »

jacquesm wrote: post #247
webwanderings wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently downloaded TB to move some offline mbox emails of large quantity. TB became increasingly slow processing few thousand. I downloaded Opera Mail to do the same exact work. I was done within few hours. I have a need for more people to repeat the same process. There's zero chance I'll be asking them to download TB.

Thunderbird sets up a full-text index to allow you to search your emails. This eats up a bit of time while importing large mailboxes but is quite handy once it is done.

I tried that (I googled to see what am I missing) didn't help.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by hkmurakami »

ttam wrote: post #239

Dear Mozilla, I'd love to help out with Pocket. As a concerned user, I even wrote this a few months ago http://constantbetasoftware.com/2016/09/02/pocket.html How can I apply?

Well there's a Mozilla employee posting in this discussion thread, so you might start by reaching out to him. He'll likely have some suggestions.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by bttf »

alphapapa wrote: post #248
bttf wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

interesting point. tags have been a feature we have not added yet partly because they seem slightly superfluous. the user is able to search across titles, descriptions, URLs, and can curate links with lists. not sure if tags can provide any extra value

Lists and tags are the same thing, where with "tags" URLs can be on multiple lists. Tags are essential. Think about this: a user saves this link to a list of stories about Pocket. He also collects links about Mozilla's management, so he puts it on a list of stories about Mozilla. Then he remembers that he wants to talk about this link with a friend, so he adds it to a list of links he wants to share with his friend.…

sorry alphapapa, it may not be obvious on the site as it is currently, but you are able to save 1 link to multiple lists

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by epoch1970 »

mcmahoniel wrote: post #15
datatan wrote: post #5

So much for my hopes of them removing it from Firefox. Uhg.

In case you didn't know, you can remove it from the toolbar via "Customize", or completely disable it by toggling `extensions.pocket.enabled` in `about:config`. That being said, I started using it extensively after being a big fan of Instapaper. The browser integration (especially the easy tagging) has been really helpful in keeping my tab count down.

When people say that they want to "remove Pocket from Firefox", they don't mean just hiding a toolbar button or disabling it using about:config.

They don't want it there at all, in any way. They don't want it using any of their computing resources, no matter how minute this usage might be.

They tend to see it as something that should be available as an add-on that's installed on-demand by those who actually want the functionality.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by beachy »

zobzu wrote: post #66
anexprogrammer wrote: post #48

Mozilla is growing, experimenting more, and can acquire startups. Mozilla doesn't have the resources to continue with Thunderbird. I am increasingly baffled by their decisions and how they relate to the strategic plans [0] they've been producing for a while. Despite the worthy words in their plan they seem to have no sense of direction. That saddens me. That said I'm happier having Pocket as an open source part of Mo…

Thunderbird doesn't make money. Pocket makes money. That Mozilla is a Corp owned by a not-for-profit isn't the real thing anymore (ie not what people may believe, not that they have any obligation beside following the rule of law) - it just frees the Corp from having to report to random share holders - instead, the Corp and the Org self-select a Board of directors that they report to. At the end of the day, it's othe…

> Pocket makes money.

Just pocket money though.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by flukus »

jventura wrote: post #230
maxxxxx wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having more project managers is how things get done. I see it everyday at my company...

I had a coworker that used to say that when you have more managers than toilets, something is clearly wrong. It was a rule of thumb in his experience..

I don't think I've ever been somewhere with more toilets than managers, that probably supports the assertion though.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by flukus »

notatoad wrote: post #153
anexprogrammer wrote: post #48

Mozilla is growing, experimenting more, and can acquire startups. Mozilla doesn't have the resources to continue with Thunderbird. I am increasingly baffled by their decisions and how they relate to the strategic plans [0] they've been producing for a while. Despite the worthy words in their plan they seem to have no sense of direction. That saddens me. That said I'm happier having Pocket as an open source part of Mo…

The people that complain about mozilla stopping development on thunderbird seem to be the same people that complain about things like firefox moving to WebExtensions, and Firefox changing their UI, and Firefox integrating Pocket. I don't understand why people are disappointed that Mozilla has stopped actively developing thunderbird - it means it's not going to change . There is an email client that you like, as is, a…

Spoken like a manager.

Something is either being actively developed or it's dieing, there is no in between with software, there is no finished state.

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