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Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by bastawhiz »

Esau wrote: post #100
omouse wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My only problem with Pocket was that it was proprietary and it was integrated with Firefox. If it's released under and open source license, then I'll be glad to have it integrated. Pocket makes Mozilla competitive on mobile because Firefox's market share on mobile is very low.

"If it's released under and open source license, then I'll be glad to have it integrated." Not me. I don't want a bloated Firefox; even if the bloat is well intentioned and fully open sourced.

I'm so confused with the HN comments that bemoan the death of XUL, alongside comments that complain about bloat in the browser. It's interesting to see how different people use different parts of Firefox differently.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

#112

Post by dboreham »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #106
anexprogrammer wrote: post #48

Mozilla is growing, experimenting more, and can acquire startups. Mozilla doesn't have the resources to continue with Thunderbird. I am increasingly baffled by their decisions and how they relate to the strategic plans [0] they've been producing for a while. Despite the worthy words in their plan they seem to have no sense of direction. That saddens me. That said I'm happier having Pocket as an open source part of Mo…

To be fair Thunderbird is awful. Every single time I try to find a better client I see someone suggesting "oh Thunderbird has gotten way better; give it a shot! I love it!" and every time I fall for it and it's the same slow, horrible application that I've tried again and again. I'm all for them killing it.

Slow? Hmm...are you sure it isn't your server that's slow?

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

#113

Post by phs »

I've been lately dissatisfied with pocket and related apps for lacking some admittedly fringe features.

The possibility of adding them myself without rebuilding the whole app is exciting!

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

#114

Post by gkoberger »

dochtman wrote: post #82

I'll keep saying that Mozilla should acquire Fastmail. Now that would be a strategic acquisition.

There's a joke at Mozilla that "Opera did it first". Pretty much every new feature in Firefox, Chrome, etc has appeared first in Opera.

In this case: https://techcrunch.com/2010/04/30/opera-fastmail/

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

#115

Post by RyanZAG »

zobzu wrote: post #66
anexprogrammer wrote: post #48

Mozilla is growing, experimenting more, and can acquire startups. Mozilla doesn't have the resources to continue with Thunderbird. I am increasingly baffled by their decisions and how they relate to the strategic plans [0] they've been producing for a while. Despite the worthy words in their plan they seem to have no sense of direction. That saddens me. That said I'm happier having Pocket as an open source part of Mo…

Thunderbird doesn't make money. Pocket makes money. That Mozilla is a Corp owned by a not-for-profit isn't the real thing anymore (ie not what people may believe, not that they have any obligation beside following the rule of law) - it just frees the Corp from having to report to random share holders - instead, the Corp and the Org self-select a Board of directors that they report to. At the end of the day, it's othe…

> Thunderbird doesn't make money. Pocket makes money.

That's not the case anymore with this merger though, right? Pocket will now cease to make actual money.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

#116

Post by bastawhiz »

Touche wrote: post #7

This is weird. Has Mozilla acquired any startups in the past? Feels weird to me for a browser non-profit to own a web app product.

They invested a million or so in Everything.me a few years ago for Firefox OS. I don't think they've actually acquired another company, though, or at least not any company of note.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

#117

Post by aluhut »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #106
anexprogrammer wrote: post #48

Mozilla is growing, experimenting more, and can acquire startups. Mozilla doesn't have the resources to continue with Thunderbird. I am increasingly baffled by their decisions and how they relate to the strategic plans [0] they've been producing for a while. Despite the worthy words in their plan they seem to have no sense of direction. That saddens me. That said I'm happier having Pocket as an open source part of Mo…

To be fair Thunderbird is awful. Every single time I try to find a better client I see someone suggesting "oh Thunderbird has gotten way better; give it a shot! I love it!" and every time I fall for it and it's the same slow, horrible application that I've tried again and again. I'm all for them killing it.

Every single time anyone complains about Thunderbird I ask myself wtf they are doing with this mail client.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

#118

Post by grzm »

bastawhiz wrote: post #111
Esau wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If it's released under and open source license, then I'll be glad to have it integrated." Not me. I don't want a bloated Firefox; even if the bloat is well intentioned and fully open sourced.

I'm so confused with the HN comments that bemoan the death of XUL, alongside comments that complain about bloat in the browser. It's interesting to see how different people use different parts of Firefox differently.

I know! I often see comments that imply HN is homogenous (with the exception of the poster). There's a lot of different people that make up the HN community, which is one of its strengths, and one of the reasons I value it.

Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

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Post by [deleted] »

bastawhiz wrote: post #111
Esau wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If it's released under and open source license, then I'll be glad to have it integrated." Not me. I don't want a bloated Firefox; even if the bloat is well intentioned and fully open sourced.

I'm so confused with the HN comments that bemoan the death of XUL, alongside comments that complain about bloat in the browser. It's interesting to see how different people use different parts of Firefox differently.

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Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket

#120

Post by richardwhiuk »

dboreham wrote: post #112
BinaryIdiot wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair Thunderbird is awful. Every single time I try to find a better client I see someone suggesting "oh Thunderbird has gotten way better; give it a shot! I love it!" and every time I fall for it and it's the same slow, horrible application that I've tried again and again. I'm all for them killing it.

Slow? Hmm...are you sure it isn't your server that's slow?

The speed of a desktop UI client shouldn't be related to how quick the server is.
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