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Mathematicians becoming data scientists

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Re: Mathematicians becoming data scientists

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I interview probably two to three people a week for a DS job. It's a really difficult role to hire for. I'm basically looking for mathematicians with some knowledge of stats who also enjoy coding and follow best practices in coding (i.e. They didn't just pick it up and hack something that works but care enough to document and structure so others can follow it at a minimum) but we also need the MBA component as well,…

Interesting, thanks. It obviously depends a lot on the job but I would have thought that a good math background (which typically CS grads should have) would be enough for many applications. Especially since you mention the business problem aspect. I think that you can actually get quite far in DS (at least in deep learning) with rather "basic math". Unless you're innovating at the bleeding edge it's usually enough to reproduce existing ideas and applying them to interesting problems is the real key. So my hiring would have focused on CS grads with a natural interest in math, ideally very rigorous/meticulous.

Re: Mathematicians becoming data scientists

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One side of this that bugs the crap out of me: I have a PhD in math and, after getting sick of teaching mediocre students with a palpable aversion to mathematics, I spent a couple of years applying for data science jobs and getting very few responses. The few interviews I got seemed to go well, but I had no offers and gave up on leaving academics. I have experience in software development (C++), I have a portfolio of…

As a mathematician outside of academia, stay there. Corporate America is not for our kind.

Re: Mathematicians becoming data scientists

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That is not the intended meaning at all. It can be a great point of pride and skill to find a solution that is as good as possible subject to complexity and time constraints that do not exist in academia.

And how often does that pride last once you see the application that work is put to? At least if you do good math, you can take pride in that .

It's just a tool. Don't connect aesthetics or morals with its production.

Re: Mathematicians becoming data scientists

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There is positive correlation between applied math and programming. I see expertise in these areas coupled with a knack of getting a point across as a potential career opportunity. No wonder academics in some parts of Asia have, for generations, seen math as “evergreen.”

Re: Mathematicians becoming data scientists

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I interview probably two to three people a week for a DS job. It's a really difficult role to hire for. I'm basically looking for mathematicians with some knowledge of stats who also enjoy coding and follow best practices in coding (i.e. They didn't just pick it up and hack something that works but care enough to document and structure so others can follow it at a minimum) but we also need the MBA component as well,…

Your comment makes me feel better about myself. I've got a BS in math, some programming chops in python/swift/objc/c/sql/etc, and I quit an MA in economics.

Re: Mathematicians becoming data scientists

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Your "90/10 all the way down" explanation is a really good one that I may borrow. I often tell people new to the field that because there's more in the overall field of data science that anyone can know, everyone feels like they're deficient from time to time since an aspect you don't understand but someone else does will naturally come up. It can be useful when that happens to keep in mind the subjects that you do k…

I think you got the parent's meaning exactly backward. The 90/10 thing is about their phd field of study (mathematical logic), and they're saying that something almost opposite of that is true for data science.

I think it's still true for data science. Nobody can keep up with the flood of research taking place.

Re: Mathematicians becoming data scientists

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One side of this that bugs the crap out of me: I have a PhD in math and, after getting sick of teaching mediocre students with a palpable aversion to mathematics, I spent a couple of years applying for data science jobs and getting very few responses. The few interviews I got seemed to go well, but I had no offers and gave up on leaving academics. I have experience in software development (C++), I have a portfolio of…

There might be a cost issue. Employers will see the PhD as raising salary expectations without adding value. The only real way to make inroads is to get a job related to your PhD and then do coding work.

Typical interview for higher jobs aren't focused on tests or quizzes. If that's what your getting your not applying to the right places - and there might not be many places.

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