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White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by grzm »

TopRamen33 wrote: post #381
smsm42 wrote: post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why that would be all? Of course it's not all. It's just one random article that I've seen couple of days ago, I didn't make a full survey of whole 8 years. It is enough though to establish the fact that the some of the press did field softball questions to Obama - in addition to publicly gushing about how awesome he is - which fact should be obvious to anybody who paid any attention through his tenure.

You didn't read the article did you? Most of these questions were asked in TV interviews which are generally very favorable to the President.

You didn't read the article did you?

The guidelines ask us

Please don't insinuate that someone hasn't read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by zepto »

SnowFace wrote: post #377
zepto wrote: post #374

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Being against the war after it started is utterly irrelevant. If you remove that from your defense of him, there is nothing left. He was weakly in support of the war before it started. That is a fact. When he says he was against the way, he says it to differentiate himself from the people who voted for it. When he does that, he is lying. There is no evidence whatever to support any other conclusion. Anything that com…

This is actually a great example of how modern day propaganda works. One tactic to discredit someone is to combine two true statements by them that look similar to create a false statement. Case in point: Claim 1: Trump says he was against the war before it started. In the Cavuto interview he's questioning the war, and he says he used to argue with Sean Hannity about it. Sean Hannity backed this up. There's no reason…

Nope.

Claiming he was against the war, after it started is irrelevant. It doesn't matter how many times you act as though it is.

One person saying they had a private argument with him before the war is also irrelevant. How many other people had private arguments but didn't express these reservations publicly?

If Trump was against the war before it started and had been brave enough to say so there would be evidence.

There is not. You can support Trump without having to be his propaganda ministry. The man makes false statements.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by SnowFace »

zepto wrote: post #402
SnowFace wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is actually a great example of how modern day propaganda works. One tactic to discredit someone is to combine two true statements by them that look similar to create a false statement. Case in point: Claim 1: Trump says he was against the war before it started. In the Cavuto interview he's questioning the war, and he says he used to argue with Sean Hannity about it. Sean Hannity backed this up. There's no reason…

Nope. Claiming he was against the war, after it started is irrelevant. It doesn't matter how many times you act as though it is. One person saying they had a private argument with him before the war is also irrelevant. How many other people had private arguments but didn't express these reservations publicly? If Trump was against the war before it started and had been brave enough to say so there would be evidence. T…

When did Hillary come out against the war?

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by zepto »

SnowFace wrote: post #403
zepto wrote: post #402

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. Claiming he was against the war, after it started is irrelevant. It doesn't matter how many times you act as though it is. One person saying they had a private argument with him before the war is also irrelevant. How many other people had private arguments but didn't express these reservations publicly? If Trump was against the war before it started and had been brave enough to say so there would be evidence. T…

When did Hillary come out against the war?

Irrelevant.

Hillary has nothing to do with Trump's lies. And no failure of hers excuses him of anything.

It looks like you can't defend him anymore.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by SnowFace »

zepto wrote: post #404
SnowFace wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When did Hillary come out against the war?

Irrelevant. Hillary has nothing to do with Trump's lies. And no failure of hers excuses him of anything. It looks like you can't defend him anymore.

Seems my point flew over your head again. You keep calling things irrelevant that you don't like. I'm done.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by zepto »

SnowFace wrote: post #405
zepto wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Irrelevant. Hillary has nothing to do with Trump's lies. And no failure of hers excuses him of anything. It looks like you can't defend him anymore.

Seems my point flew over your head again. You keep calling things irrelevant that you don't like. I'm done.

No - you tried to make this about Hilary - when it isn't - it's just about Trump lying.

If you seriously don't see Trump lying, it probably is better for you to bow out.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by rc_bhg »

the_watcher wrote: post #343
rc_bhg wrote: post #158

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Not even close to the same thing. Not even in the same ball park.

They did bar them from attending some press briefings. Again, it wasn't as explicit, and it didn't come on the heels of such explicit aggression towards the media in general, but it very much was in the same ballpark.

> They did bar them from attending some press briefings

Citation is still needed

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