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AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling

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Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling

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It's about $2000/week to rent an IQ180. If you can afford the rental price, you can afford a computer to process the images.

thats not how money works. Just because you can afford one expensive luxury, doesnt mean you can afford all the other expensive stuff. Sometimes you do sacrifice all the other thing to get that one important expensive stuff

Pro photographers don't do that.

Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling

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There is no free lunch. Moving to quad channel incurs more costs in pins, mobo traces, etc.. It's targeted product development.

Nah, it's just artificial limits. Would totally just work if they flipped a bit in the processor. /s Less sarcastically, what do people need >64 gigs for on a consumer desktop? I'm a dev and work on a pretty memory intensive service and don't need 128 gigs. Holding an entire double layer blu-ray in memory would only require 50 gigs.

> Less sarcastically, what do people need >64 gigs for on a consumer desktop?

I use mine as a terminal server to some super cheap Raspberry PI machines that are basically just monitors running VNC software.

For good performance you need about 4 to 8GB per user. I don't have that many users personally to need 64GB, but if you have a bunch of kids having terminals is much cheaper than a real computer for each user, plus you only need to keep one computer updated.

You could easily afford a computer in each room that way.

Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling

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I won't be replacing my i7 6800K build any time soon, but I'm very happy to see AMD looking competitive again. There hasn't been much excitement about the recent generations of i7 for good reason, and hopefully this forces them to start pushing the envelope again.

They will more likely just sell at a loss to undercut AMD, it will cost them less than R&D.

Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling

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I think he meant 16GB memory used when editing. Not the filesize.

Same question still applies.

You asked in another sub-thread "what do people need >64 gigs for on a consumer desktop?" but jeff_vader started this sub-thread asking "what do you do if you are interested in >64gb workstations?"

AFAICT nobody on this sub-thread is claiming that consumer desktops should cater to our niche use cases. We're just offering examples of application domains where a high RAM-to-CPU ratio is useful.

Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling

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While I recognize it is a 'what is there to lose' kind of move, I think it is really awesome that AMD is unlocking all of their Ryzen parts. Seems like a when for the "I want to smoke my own processor thank you very much" generation.

Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling

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I think he meant 16GB memory used when editing. Not the filesize.

Same question still applies.

Not really. As the actual editing being added to the base image is what could push that. I think the question you'd be looking for is, "what amount of photo editing, effects, etc. would make the editing process of a 80mpix photo consume >16GB memory?"

Additionally, as for your original question: For hobby or even 'normal' professional photography, I'd guess none. But rigs like the ones used for Gmaps Street View, the recent CNN gigapixel, etc. would probably have the capability to approach that size.

Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no free lunch. Moving to quad channel incurs more costs in pins, mobo traces, etc.. It's targeted product development.

Nah, it's just artificial limits. Would totally just work if they flipped a bit in the processor. /s Less sarcastically, what do people need >64 gigs for on a consumer desktop? I'm a dev and work on a pretty memory intensive service and don't need 128 gigs. Holding an entire double layer blu-ray in memory would only require 50 gigs.

Minecraft. That shit is heavy! On a more serious note, some gamers are using RAM disks to greatly improve performance of some games, especially modded games like Minecraft and Skyrim.

Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling

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It will be a very interesting match to witness. Intel will have to act under pressure while saying goodbye to a huge sum of money.

Just saw this, looks like Intel is already dropping prices significantly: http://wccftech.com/intel-amd-price-war-ryzen-processors/ If you were on the verge of getting a 7700k or something, it looks like now is the time to buy (or give Ryzen a shot!). Personally I'm willing to pay a bit more to give Ryzen a chance, because hopefully it will lead to sustained competition in this space again. A $500 8-core CPU is more…

> Just saw this, looks like Intel is already dropping prices significantly: http://wccftech.com/intel-amd-price-war-ryzen-processors/

Those are Microcenter's normal prices - they have always sold Intel processors significantly under normal pricing as a loss-leader (not sure if it's an actual loss). They will also knock another $30 off if you buy a motherboard at the same time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/5cvz4z/cpu_i...

For example, they have been running 6700Ks for $260-280 since before Christmas. They sold Kaby Lake 7700Ks for $330 once those launched, now they're down to $300. This is just the normal Microcenter pricing life-cycle.

But, that's the kind of "journalism" you come to expect from WCCFTech. They will literally publish any random garbage someone writes up.

Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling

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What're the chances Apple puts ryzen into their lineup?

Zero. While the performance of Ryzen is pretty good, the overall power consumption and efficiency (idle, semi-load and load) i still no where near Intel. They won't kill 2-3 hour battery life on Macbooks for a AMD CPU.

How do you know this? The only Zen-based chips we have any information about are desktop parts and we don't have any power usage benchmarks.

The Raven Ridge chips, which are meant for laptops, would have the added advantage of removing the need for a discrete GPU in the 15" MacBook Pro. Switching to AMD seems unlikely but I'd be interested if they did.

Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling

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This article doesn't actually list any benchmarks and the link/URL is totally broken for the "Ryzen offers even better single-threaded performance per clock than Intel’s Kaby Lake." - http://single-threaded/

Yes, customer Ryzen CPUs support ECC.

> Yes, customer Ryzen CPUs support ECC.

No, they don't.

> We did ask about a potential single socket Ryzen/ Zen part with ECC memory support and were told that AMD was not announcing such a product at this time alongside the Ryzen/ Zen launch.

https://www.servethehome.com/amd-ryzen-7-parts-available-for...

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