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A Man Stopped Thousands of People Becoming HIV-Positive

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Re: A Man Stopped Thousands of People Becoming HIV-Positive

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Last time I checked on my insurance it was going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of $1K/mo for PrEP. Now minimums would be met soon enough but still way too expensive. The website mentioned in the article appears to sell it for ~$54/mo which is crazy.

Re: A Man Stopped Thousands of People Becoming HIV-Positive

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I'm a 30-something gay dude on PREP. I primarily take it because I'm in a sero-discordant relationship with my boyfriend who is HIV+, but also as a safety precaution for when I was single and hooking up. PREP has the potential to completely turn the tide on HIV infections. I live in a mid-sized midwestern city where between 10 and 25% of gay dudes in my dating pool are HIV+, many of them unknowingly and therefore con…

Having a large group of people who don't know they have HIV is shocking.

Re: A Man Stopped Thousands of People Becoming HIV-Positive

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> you'll never see the day when that happens Only because political correctness prevents us from shaming those newly infected with HIV. Instead they're victims who deserve our unconditional sympathy.

Is shame especially effective at preventing irrational behavior? Is there anything in your life you would be doing differently if you were a 100% rational agent with unlimited willpower? If so, do you ever feel ashamed when you fall short?

To your last two questions: Yes and yes.

Re: A Man Stopped Thousands of People Becoming HIV-Positive

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is shame especially effective at preventing irrational behavior? Is there anything in your life you would be doing differently if you were a 100% rational agent with unlimited willpower? If so, do you ever feel ashamed when you fall short?

To your last two questions: Yes and yes.

Then your answer to the first question is no? Or am I misunderstanding?

Re: A Man Stopped Thousands of People Becoming HIV-Positive

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You can take that view on any number of issues: "It'll get better when these people get their act together". The problem is, you'll never see the day when that happens, so proper allocation of blame is completely beside the point. If, on the other hand, you stop trying to figure out who deserves to be helped, you can actually make a difference.

> you'll never see the day when that happens Only because political correctness prevents us from shaming those newly infected with HIV. Instead they're victims who deserve our unconditional sympathy.

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Re: A Man Stopped Thousands of People Becoming HIV-Positive

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From the way the article exalts Owen--an HIV+ former dug addict and male prostitute--you'd think he's worthy of the Victoria Cross. Since the discovery of its aetiology three decades ago, HIV/AIDS has been an almost entirely preventable disease. Gay men and intravenous drug users (who account for almost all new infections in the US and UK) simply acting responsibly for once would have long marked it for eradication--…

We ban accounts like this one that are created just to violate the guidelines. Please don't do this.

Re: A Man Stopped Thousands of People Becoming HIV-Positive

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Do you think it's simply a coincidence that both divorce and out-of-wedlock births have become so much more common as they've become so much less stigmatized?

Both divorce and out-of-wedlock births (and sexually transmitted infections) are highest, in the U.S., within the southern evangelical communities that most readily practice exactly the sort of shaming and stigmatizing you're talking about.

> Both divorce and out-of-wedlock births (and sexually transmitted infections) are highest, in the U.S., within the southern evangelical communities

I was skeptical, but yeah that looks pretty much true for divorce in the Midwest / South (in 2000), at least:

https://www.bgsu.edu/ncfmr/resources/data/original-data/coun...

Re: A Man Stopped Thousands of People Becoming HIV-Positive

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both divorce and out-of-wedlock births (and sexually transmitted infections) are highest, in the U.S., within the southern evangelical communities that most readily practice exactly the sort of shaming and stigmatizing you're talking about.

> Both divorce and out-of-wedlock births (and sexually transmitted infections) are highest, in the U.S., within the southern evangelical communities I was skeptical, but yeah that looks pretty much true for divorce in the Midwest / South (in 2000), at least: https://www.bgsu.edu/ncfmr/resources/data/original-data/coun...

Here's a study that found "Increased religiosity in residents of states in the U.S. strongly predicted a higher teen birth rate.... With data aggregated at the state level, conservative religious beliefs strongly predict U.S. teen birth rates, in a relationship that does not appear to be the result of confounding by income or abortion rates. One possible explanation for this relationship is that teens in more religious communities may be less likely to use contraception."

https://reproductive-health-journal.biomedcentral.com/articl...

Re: A Man Stopped Thousands of People Becoming HIV-Positive

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I'm a 30-something gay dude on PREP. I primarily take it because I'm in a sero-discordant relationship with my boyfriend who is HIV+, but also as a safety precaution for when I was single and hooking up. PREP has the potential to completely turn the tide on HIV infections. I live in a mid-sized midwestern city where between 10 and 25% of gay dudes in my dating pool are HIV+, many of them unknowingly and therefore con…

HIV is a pretty rare disease. About 1 in 300 people in the USA. So I don't understand 1 in 4 gay men are HIV+.

Re: A Man Stopped Thousands of People Becoming HIV-Positive

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From the way the article exalts Owen--an HIV+ former dug addict and male prostitute--you'd think he's worthy of the Victoria Cross. Since the discovery of its aetiology three decades ago, HIV/AIDS has been an almost entirely preventable disease. Gay men and intravenous drug users (who account for almost all new infections in the US and UK) simply acting responsibly for once would have long marked it for eradication--…

We ban accounts like this one that are created just to violate the guidelines. Please don't do this.

> We ban accounts like this one that are created just to violate the guidelines. Please don't do this.

Surely you mean, rather than come back with a logically worked-out refutation, you ban accounts that don't conform with the editors mindset.

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