If the 32 core Naples server Zen, due Q2, has anything like this kind of price/perf versus Xeon, Intel is in trouble.
AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling
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Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling
#12I won't be replacing my i7 6800K build any time soon, but I'm very happy to see AMD looking competitive again. There hasn't been much excitement about the recent generations of i7 for good reason, and hopefully this forces them to start pushing the envelope again.
Exactly. Ridiculous Intel pricing and artificial limitations were a consequence of de facto monopoly. I absolutely hate how they cap maximum RAM on consumer machines, so that you need to pony up for a Xeon workstation if you need more than 64 GB.
64gb workstation ought to be enough for anybody. Jokes aside, what do you do if you are interested in >64gb workstations?
Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling
#13Just a reminder that wccftech.com is notoriously pro-AMD. I would caution against taking their word as proof. I'm not an AMD hater (actually own AMD stock), just cautious.
It's more of a rumor/gossip tech site with a reputation for immediately publishing almost anything you could put a click-baity title on.
As a result it does look pro-AMD, because there is significantly more hype (the infamous hype train) in AMD community (just compare /r/amd and /r/nvidia on Reddit). I can't say if it's something that emerged organically in those communities and embraced by corporate or the other way round.
Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling
#14Just a reminder that wccftech.com is notoriously pro-AMD. I would caution against taking their word as proof. I'm not an AMD hater (actually own AMD stock), just cautious.
It's more of a rumor/gossip tech site with a reputation for immediately publishing almost anything you could put a click-baity title on. As a result it does look pro-AMD, because there is significantly more hype (the infamous hype train) in AMD community (just compare /r/amd and /r/nvidia on Reddit). I can't say if it's something that emerged organically in those communities and embraced by corporate or the other way…
Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling
#15That TDP is unreal. 95 Watts? Looks like AMD has made a real performance breakthrough here. When is general availability expected?
And 65W for the Ryzen 7 1700, which is an absolute feat for 8 cores
Would the 1700X and 1800X also be 65W if they were downclocked to 3GHz, or is the 1700 fundamentally different from them?
Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling
#16I won't be replacing my i7 6800K build any time soon, but I'm very happy to see AMD looking competitive again. There hasn't been much excitement about the recent generations of i7 for good reason, and hopefully this forces them to start pushing the envelope again.
Exactly. Ridiculous Intel pricing and artificial limitations were a consequence of de facto monopoly. I absolutely hate how they cap maximum RAM on consumer machines, so that you need to pony up for a Xeon workstation if you need more than 64 GB.
FWIW consumer Zen is also limited to 64GB, to go higher you'll need to step up to AMDs Xeon-esque Naples platform.
Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. Ridiculous Intel pricing and artificial limitations were a consequence of de facto monopoly. I absolutely hate how they cap maximum RAM on consumer machines, so that you need to pony up for a Xeon workstation if you need more than 64 GB.
64gb workstation ought to be enough for anybody. Jokes aside, what do you do if you are interested in >64gb workstations?
Some examples that can easily push you beyond 64 GB:
- high resolution photo editing: when you start with a 80 mpix / 48 bit photo from a medium format camera pushing beyond 16 GB requires only a couple layers and a couple undo steps being available
- high resolution video processing. 1 second of uncompressed 4k 60fps video is almost 1.4GB
- very large application compilation: building Android requires 16GB of RAM/swap - I'm sure there are apps that push that requirement even further
- development environment for a complex system that requires you to run dozens of VMs if you want all components running locally (I've had to run 2 VMs with 12GB requirements each once)
Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
And 65W for the Ryzen 7 1700, which is an absolute feat for 8 cores
Would the 1700X and 1800X also be 65W if they were downclocked to 3GHz, or is the 1700 fundamentally different from them?
They will also be 65W in that case, they are made from the same dies
Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. Ridiculous Intel pricing and artificial limitations were a consequence of de facto monopoly. I absolutely hate how they cap maximum RAM on consumer machines, so that you need to pony up for a Xeon workstation if you need more than 64 GB.
FWIW consumer Zen is also limited to 64GB, to go higher you'll need to step up to AMDs Xeon-esque Naples platform.
I know, but competition would hopefully raise these limits in consumer machines.
Re: AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X with 1-Click OC on Air Cooling
#20Anyone knows where can I get detailed information about the processor? I tried to search in AMD page but the information is very scant.
Namely do these processors support ECC and what virtualisation capabilities do they have (for KVM with full GPU access).